Junkboyjude

A 32 hole Martano Tipo Strada, Wolber Liberty tire, Campagnolo Record Hub and skewer came in the post today !! I have another Martano Tipo Strada with a Wolber Liberty tire in the works. Will just need a rear Campagnolo Record Hub spokes and washers

Junkboyjude

This was supposed to be in "what came in the post for you today" lol Not sure what happened

Salamandrine 

Wolber Liberty? I forgot about those. I used them briefly when they were the new thing. The tube is vulcanized to the casing and you can't patch them. They had this little needle injector repair kit. You were supposed to stick this needle into the cut tire and squeeze some goop from a little tube inside, which theoretically cured and plugged the cut. Sometimes it would even work, for a ride or two. More likely you were lucky if it held 10 miles, if it worked at all.

If the valve cores are removable, maybe you can use modern sealant instead.

Junkboyjude

I am going to build/find another martano for show (pictures) with another Wolber and ride something else. I havent decided what yet though. i like the idea of riding tubulars, its what i rode as a kid on my Atala. Sentiment i guess lol.

repechage

Move the Wobler to a spare. They ride meh at best. I would look for a pair of high quality tires, in the 25-27 mm range.

Salamandrine 

Yeah, "meh" is not a bad description. They were just cheap training tires. The Wolber "Invulnerable" from around the same time was a better training tire.

I'd be scared to ride any cotton tire that old frankly.

As long as we're on the subject, RE tubulars in the 25-27mm range, got any recommendations? My Masi needs tires too. I prefer something not too $$$ but not cheap and crooked either.

CV-6 

Depending on what you call $$$, Probikekit has Vlaanderen for about $66/tire and Roubaix for about $123/pair. Free delivery for orders over $79. Or there is a guy on the Serotta forum who has some new Vlaanderen he will sell for $135 shipped for the pair. He ships fast...I bought some used tires from him.

Wildwood 

@Junkboyjude - I'm running Veloflex 25 & 27 - the vlaanderen runs closer to 27mm than 28. The Arenberg & Roubaix are both a touch under 25. Unless you need the extra 2mm, the 25s are plenty of tire for a smooth roll.

Wildwood 

I've never had a Martano Tipo rim, is the braking surface intentionally grooved that deeply???

edit: quick search = I guess the term is 'fluted'.
Here's some brief info.
https://www.derbyking.com/Detail/?n=34

Junkboyjude

yes sir it is, grooved or fluted maybe the correct term. i saw it on velobase. I was told it would be very unlikely for this rim set to have come on the bike and i would agree but im no expert at all. i just like it because its old. i am going to have an extra set of rims and tires. I will wind up paying 400 for a cinelli unicator #1 like just sold on ebay. i know me. lol

VeloBase.com - Component: Martano Tipo Strada - grooved sidewalls

Junkboyjude

i bought this one from a guy in france. record hubs wolber tire its a 32 hole

Junkboyjude

thank you for the info. yah no way im riding on any tire thats even half my age and im 47. so no way im riding those tires. i was watching a bob roll video and he was talking tubulars and what he rode. cant remember the name but was in the 100+/- range per tire i think.

CV-6 

Okay...I am confused. I get you don't want to ride a cheap tire. But are you saying you wouldn't ride Veloflex Roubaix or Vlaanderen? You might reconsider if that is the case. List on those are in Bobke country and sometimes you can find them at the prices I provided. But if you insist on spending over $100 per tire, I highly recommend FMB. I have both FMB and Veloflex on bikes. I rate the FMB ahead of Veloflex, but neither will disappoint.

Salamandrine 

Thanks. I didn't know about those. Those look just right, and the price is ballpark. The other tire I was looked at were Continentals, but those are hard to find these days with the funky brown not quite gum sidewalls.

Funny but BITD I would just buy whatever training tubulars were cheapest that month for general riding. With an LBS employee discount, I think I averaged about $10/ea, but that was more than half my age then...

CV-6 

LOL. I paid $15 a tire once back in college, not realizing I had bought silk racing tires. They did not stand up well to my college commute.

Junkboyjude

No no. I wasn't clear. Sorry I am saying there is no way I'm riding the wolber liberty tire that's on the rim now. The tires you suggested I was looking at today I am sure both would be fine. I also meant the tires he was talking about (bob r) were even more expensive then the ones you suggested. sorry I wasn't clear earlier.