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Old 09-13-17, 12:40 PM   #76
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Ugh rei doesn't have good riding shorts
I'll try river city. #ijustdontwantarawtaint
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I'm not a C&V but I'm glad i can go to.
Wait a minute! Velocivixen can ride any bike she wants because she's special, but I was expecting a sweet vintage steed from you.
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Just about any cycling short is better than gym shorts. But you should be able to find something at River City or Universal Cycles.
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Just about any cycling short is better than gym shorts. But you should be able to find something at River City or Universal Cycles.
I was planning on wearing some plain cotton khaki shorts, will I be OK, @gugie?

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I was planning on wearing some plain cotton khaki shorts, will I be OK, @gugie?

I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

We won't be in Portland proper, other jurisdictions don't look too kindly to naked bike riding...

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Just about any cycling short is better than gym shorts. But you should be able to find something at River City or Universal Cycles.
Your transformation into Grant Petersen won't be complete until you start insisting that everyone ride in casual shorts over wool underwear. On the other hand, this ride may be slightly longer than Grant's limit, so that could be a questionable recommendation in this case. I'm going with Lycra and a nice chamois, maybe even full team kit.
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Your transformation into Grant Petersen won't be complete until you start insisting that everyone ride in casual shorts over wool underwear. On the other hand, this ride may be slightly longer than Grant's limit, so that could be a questionable recommendation in this case. I'm going with Lycra and a nice chamois, maybe even full team kit.
I did this experiment. Note that Grant thinks that any ride over 40 miles is just work (it is, but then, we do like to suffer, don't we?) A few years ago I went on an 8 day bike trip, and decided to alternate between woolie undies and lycra shorts under some of those loose bike shorts I like to wear. First day was short, no issues, long days there after I tried to alternate, woolies started getting scratchy after, yep, 40 miles.

This ride is about fiddy, so you know which way I'll go. The Caveman hasn't evolved enough to hurt down there, I would guess.
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This ride is about fiddy, so you know which way I'll go. The Caveman hasn't evolved enough to hurt down there, I would guess.
I seem to recall seeing a bit of lycra peeking out from under the khakis on one of the rides we did up his way.
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Ahah!
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Heh. I guess my extra large bicycle collection is overcompensating for some deficiency, huh?

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I seem to recall seeing a bit of lycra peeking out from under the khakis on one of the rides we did up his way.
Oh, yeah. I have compression shorts from Big-5 I try to wear any time I'm going over 40 miles or so. I say "try to wear" since I usually can't find them when I'm looking for them; but sometimes they turn up. But enough about my undergarments!

I was wondering which of my many, many bikes I should bring for this jaunt. (My bike collection is YOOOOOGE, believe me, really enormous!) Would it be nuts to do this ride on my fixie? Looking back to the first post, if it's true the only sustained climbing is around 2%, it sounds like it'd be easy. What say you, o panel of local experts?

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I was wondering which of my many, many bikes I should bring for this jaunt. (My bike collection is YOOOOOGE, believe me, really enormous!) Would it be nuts to do this ride on my fixie? Looking back to the first post, if it's true the only sustained climbing is around 2%, it sounds like it'd be easy. What say you, o panel of local experts?
You could probably make that work. All the climbing is packed into a five mile stretch. The average gradient over that 5 miles is 2.4%. Like I said earlier in this thread, the only thing remotely challenging about it is that it doesn't flatten out at all over that stretch, but compared to Hurricane Ridge it might as well all be downhill.

The real challenge with the fixie will be whether or not you can maintain a low enough cadence to keep from dropping the rest of us. I'm thinking a cruising speed around 15 mph on the flats isn't out of the question. Something like a 39-18 gear might slow you down enough for me to keep up.

I think you should bring the Grandis.
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Heh. I guess my extra large bicycle collection is overcompensating for some deficiency, huh?
(My bike collection is YOOOOOGE, believe me, really enormous!) Would it be nuts to do this ride on my fixie? Looking back to the first post, if it's true the only sustained climbing is around 2%, it sounds like it'd be easy. What say you, o panel of local experts?

Yeah, overcompensating?

Even though I'm of the anti-fixie crowd (undercompensating?), prolly work.
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The real challenge with the fixie will be whether or not you can maintain a low enough cadence to keep from dropping the rest of us. I'm thinking a cruising speed around 15 mph on the flats isn't out of the question. Something like a 39-18 gear might slow you down enough for me to keep up.

I think you should bring the Grandis.
Thanks for the info. 15 mph on the flat is a really nice cruising speed for my (40/15 - think) gearing. It's a flip/flop rear wheel with a (I think) 16T freewheel on the other side, so that gives me another tooth if I decide 5 miles of that incline is too much after 40 miles. The Grandis would be good, too. Especially if there's some other riding to be done on Friday night or Sunday morning. Hmmm...
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Hey All. I've just returned from a few days R&R in cavemans' neck of the NW woods. I've not been riding and having health issues. This being a non-gravel event I actually have a couple bikes ready to ride. I'm likely to start. Finish? We'll see.
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Sweet! It's looking like we've got a pretty good group developing. Lots of people to draft!
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Dunno. @Insidious C. is too damn skinny. You and me, lots of draft. Him, not so much.
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I found some liners and normal bike shorts. No Racer Rick here. I did see one C&V that caught my eye and tried looking for it again and couldn't find it. The entire thing was breathe taking. Ok let's see how it go's tomorrow. Andy is buying a round for everyone!
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7 showed, 7 finished. Sucessful Day.

Well, Andy spun his french threaded bottom bracket off, I almost killed the caveman by stopping short, and @PortlandEddie just about cramped up on the ride after his trainer made him do 150 squats yesterday.

But beer cures all.

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The Caveman shows his strength by curling my bike. Next week he'll move up to curling my bike with the front wheel in place. @Dfrost hides his face in shame.

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The Seattle Gang @andy Antipas, @Dfrost, @Lascauxcaveman) drove up the day before to @Andy_K's place, we drove 2 pickups and a car up to Vernonia, left the pickups off behind the Black Iron Grill, then drove back in the car. That allowed us to ride up to Vernonia, and pack the bikes in the back of the pickups to drive back. We did a 50 mile ride, 25 of it on the Banks-Vernonia rail to trail trail.

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I think it was the first 50 miler for PortlandEddie, he did just fine. I think his new cycling shorts kept his nether regions from catching fire; at least he wasn't complaining about it.

I'm sure The Caveman will post many more pix tomorrow when gets back to his cave, he kept flying ahead to get action shots of the rest of us riding by. As we get further in to Vernonia, smoke from the various fires in Oregion started to mess with the sky. It wasn't nearly as bad as we had experienced in the last few weeks, but a bright, clear day it wasn't. No matter, the beer and burgers were just as good.
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The rest of you might have done 25 miles on the Banks-Vernonia Trail (although I think it was only 20). I liked it so much I rode an extra eight. Meanwhile the mechanic at Banks Bicycle Repair and Rental added French bottom bracket repairs to his resumé.
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@andy k: Sorry to hear of your mechanical. Always sucks to hear of something like that which can possibly mess up the shell threads

Although I do pay pretty close attention to what's going on around me on a ride (solo or group), I'm going to pay a little more attention to others' bikes for impending mechanical issues while on group rides. @Wildwood had an incident once I recall during one of our rides. Motorcyclists are known for keeping eyes on their fellow bikers' bikes when in a group.

Do many of you think about this aspect of riding much? I know that until today I've never done. Here and there noticing things, but I've not really made it a habit. You know?

Anyway, glad everyone was safe and had a good time. Did hills today for my third ride since my crash.

Is it sad that I've not yet seen to the (superficial) damage to the bike?

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Well, I've seen the damage to the components, and have noted that the headset has loosened up, too (bars turned sharp right and the bike endo'd).

I wasn't able to note any frame damage after my cursory look, but I need to get that checked out, too. I'm just bummed about the whole deal and in no hurry to find out - especially if it's bad news.

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Heh. I guess my extra large bicycle collection is overcompensating for some deficiency, huh?

Not questioning the size of your collection, but does that large bike fit you? Nice SuperCourse, you must have a good source for old, used specimens.
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