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Old 08-24-17, 02:01 PM   #1
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Yet Another PNW Ride -- Tualatin Valley Scenic Bikeway, Part Deux

Let me say at the outset, that I'm not nearly as good at organizing things as gugie is, so don't expect the kind of production value (or thread pimping) you saw with the North Trask ride. I'm also proposing a route that doesn't quite match the grandeur of the North Trask route. There will, however, still be beer an burgers at the end.

What I'm proposing is Tualatin Valley Scenic Bikeway, Part Deux.

If you aren't me, @gugie, @Insidious C. or @2Fer, you may not realize that we did this last year. We did. It was fun.

So here's what I'm thinking:

- The ride will be either September 16 or September 23.

- We'll meet at Rood Bridge Park in Hillsboro sometime not terribly early in the morning.

- We'll follow the official Tualatin Valley Scenic Bikeway route to Vernonia.

- We'll eat burgers and drink beer (vegetarian and non-alcoholic options available, if you prefer).

- We'll toss our bikes in one or more vehicles that were strategically stashed there the night before.

- We'll drive back to Rood Bridge Park.


The route is 99.8% paved (and you can avoid the 0.2% gravel by carrying your bike 100 yards or so through the driveway at the Fern Hill Wetlands rest stop. Most of the ride is gloriously flat. There is one stretch on the Banks-Veronia Trail that goes up around 750 feet in 6.5 miles at a steady 2% grade. That can wear on people who really hate hills, but it's honestly not bad. There's also a steep "climb" out of the Top Hill Trailhead, but you can walk that and be at the top before people who rode it have finished catching their breath. The entire route is just over 50 miles.

Here's a link to more details on the route: https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...scenic-bikeway

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@Andy Antipas and @Dfrost rode part of this route with me earlier this year, but they're going to have to come back down and start over from the beginning if they want full credit.
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16th, most likely, but I am out of town the 23rd. Not a fan of Zaaldercross?
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Prolly.

We can stop and look for @2Fer down in the swamp we left him in last year.



Bring some oil, his Miyata 1000 will likely be rusty...
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Not a fan of Zaaldercross?
It has a hill. I've given up racing anywhere that isn't flat.
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i'm a noob and i'd love to ride but i can't do 50 miles yet, most i have done is 19 miles round trip
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Let me say at the outset, that I'm not nearly as good at organizing things as gugie is, so don't expect the kind of production value (or thread pimping) you saw with the North Trask ride.
It's 1% production value, 99% thread pimping.

Lemme show you how it's done.

Going back to last year's ride, @the_Thin_Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."

So now you've got him committed.



There's also the shotgun method, beg and plead, and the promise of a cold beer at the end of the ride.
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It's 1% production value, 99% thread pimping.

Lemme show you how it's done.

Going back to last year's ride, @the_Thin_Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."

So now you've got him committed.



There's also the shotgun method, beg and plead, and the promise of a cold beer at the end of the ride.
You can always do what @iab did and promise a whole lot of pain:

http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...in-august.html

of course that may only work in Middle Earth . . .
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i'm a noob and i'd love to ride but i can't do 50 miles yet, most i have done is 19 miles round trip
Honestly, if your health is decent you have enough time between now and September 16 to build up to 50 miles. I'm not even joking.
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Going back to last year's ride, @the_Thin_Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."
I see your methods, but the execution seems to be a bit off. I think what you meant to say is this:

@The Thin Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."

And with any luck the auto-formatter won't maul that the same way it did yours.
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I see your methods, but the execution seems to be a bit off. I think what you meant to say is this:

@The Thin Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."

And with any luck the auto-formatter won't maul that the same way it did yours.
I did that on purpose, now you're the pimp.
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Honestly, if your health is decent you have enough time between now and September 16 to build up to 50 miles. I'm not even joking.
Yep, if you can go 19, you can go 30. This weekend go out and try it. And if you can go 30, you can go 40...

All things are possible with cold beer at the end of the ride...
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Tualaton Valley Scenic Bikeway

I enjoyed the portion of the ride Dave, Andy K, and I did back in June. Beautiful scenery and good roads. I look forward to doing the whole thing!
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If y'all want to ride the Banks-Vernonia Trail, the recumbent mafia is going to be out there on September 3rd. Starting about 9AM at Banks High School, returning some time in the afternoon. We're slow, y'know.

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I'll go if you push the start back some. (Gotta ride 67 miles that morning to Sisters, jump in my car and hump it to Rood Bridge.)

Second thought, naw, I don't want to start that early and ride that hard And you guys probably don't want to start at 4pm!

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If y'all want to ride the Banks-Vernonia Trail, the recumbent mafia is going to be out there on September 3rd. Starting about 9AM at Banks High School, returning some time in the afternoon. We're slow, y'know.
I've got a beard and an aerobelly, but I'm not sure I have the right bike to blend with that crowd.
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I've got a beard and an aerobelly, but I'm not sure I have the right bike to blend with that crowd.
Crash one of them a couple of times on the North Trask run, it might start to look like one...
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Sounds like a fun ride, @Andy_K! I'll check with the family scheduler.

Would that 0.2% gravel on the route benefit by switching back to 650x38's, or would 32's be sufficient? (Marinoni is currently in 700C configuration.)
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Sounds like a fun ride, @Andy_K! I'll check with the family scheduler.

Would that 0.2% gravel on the route benefit by switching back to 650x38's, or would 32's be sufficient? (Marinoni is currently in 700C configuration.)
The 0.2% gravel is literally just the driveway of the rest area. You've been there and probably didn't even think about it being gravel. I think 700x19s would be able to handle it.

The only reason to prefer wider tires for this ride is that a lot of the roads are covered in chip seal. I'd say 32's are easily sufficient for that, so long as they aren't overinflated. As I recall, I grumbled about it one time when I was riding on 700x25 tires, and gugie (riding 650x42, of course) said he hadn't noticed that there was any chip seal at all. I think you've ridden the part with the worst/freshest chip seal too.

The people at the Washington County roads department assure me that I will come to love chip seal if I just give it a chance.
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The 0.2% gravel is literally just the driveway of the rest area. You've been there and probably didn't even think about it being gravel. I think 700x19s would be able to handle it.

The only reason to prefer wider tires for this ride is that a lot of the roads are covered in chip seal. I'd say 32's are easily sufficient for that, so long as they aren't overinflated. As I recall, I grumbled about it one time when I was riding on 700x25 tires, and gugie (riding 650x42, of course) said he hadn't noticed that there was any chip seal at all. I think you've ridden the part with the worst/freshest chip seal too.

The people at the Washington County roads department assure me that I will come to love chip seal if I just give it a chance.
@Dfrost, you could sling your bike over your shoulder and walk the 50 yards or so to the covered rest stop.

Or, we could just HTFU and keep riding.

I do not know of this "chip seal" that Andy_K speaks of. It think I'll bring my "summer" bike to find out - it has super narrow 33.333's on it:

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I see your methods, but the execution seems to be a bit off. I think what you meant to say is this:

@The Thin Man wrote: "Next time, fellas, I'll attend."

And with any luck the auto-formatter won't maul that the same way it did yours.
I'm a man of my word, @gugie and @Andy_K. I'm in. Either day works for me but I'll need to investigate further regarding making it to the trailhead being one who does not own a vehicle. Likely, the Max or catch a ride if anyone is heading out from Portland (I live in Hollywood).

Tualatin Valley Scenic Bikeway is one I haven't ridden before. This should be a lot of fun! Thanks for instigating, Andy!
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I'm a man of my word, @gugie and @Andy_K. I'm in. Either day works for me but I'll need to investigate further regarding making it to the trailhead being one who does not own a vehicle. Likely, the Max or catch a ride if anyone is heading out from Portland (I live in Hollywood).

Tualatin Valley Scenic Bikeway is one I haven't ridden before. This should be a lot of fun! Thanks for instigating, Andy!
I'm positive we can work something out for you, either way.

@jyl, you ready for some longer flat riding?
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Something something straight block of a 12-17 6- or 7-speed variety should suffice for him...
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Looks like a good ride, and with good company, as usual. Pending checking with the family schedule, I'm down with it.
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I have ridden this, only in reverse, a couple years ago, when I decided to try doing a metric century on knobby tires. I did survive and it was hard given I didn't actually train for such a thing.
I would like to go on this ride, only not the entire thing and slower.....I've done C & V rides with you all in the past, in Portland and I'm certain you all were riding modest speeds, however for me, it was challenging. I wouldn't be able to keep up, but I am gonna throw out there for others, like me, who want to get out there and ride, but who prefer a more leisurely pace.
@andy k - I'm not trying to hijack your event, but wonder if others are out there who might like to do an abbreviated version? If so I'm willing to figure something out, route wise. If not, no worries.
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