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Old 06-21-05, 07:34 PM   #1
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value for: Bianchi, campione del mondo 1986-1987 colorado springs

I just bought a used:
Bianchi campione del mondo 1986-1987 colorado springs
Its got shimano 105 everything its in good shape the usual
scratches for an old bike but everything works really
well & is very tight. I paid $135 CAN - anyone have an idea
if thats a decent price? What did this bike go for in 1986?
Is it Japanese? Italian?
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Old 06-21-05, 08:48 PM   #2
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Very carefully and precisely measure the width of the bottom bracket shell itself. If it is 68mm wide, the BB is English/ISO threaded, and the frame was made in Japan. If it is 70mm wide, the BB is Italian threaded, and the frame was made in Italy. I am GUESSING yours is Japanese ... let us know how it "measures up."

As for the price, that sounds decent enough to me. The Japanese Bianchis may be less collectible than the Italian ones, but several folks have suggested that they are sometimes better-made, and Tange CrMo has been compared VERY favorably with Columbus.
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Hey, did you happen to buy this bike from a guy in Welland, Ontario?
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I don't think campion del mundo is the model here. Bianchi won the worlds in 1986 in Colorado Springs - that's what the sticker says. I had a Trofeo from the same vintage that sported that sticker as well...The model is usually in the front on the top tube. If its a Limited its a Japanese bike. The Limited was made in Japan, of Japanese parts, for world export by Bianchi. The Italian ones sported Made in Italy stickers, and came with mostly Italian parts.
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I measured it and its 70mm, so what does this mean besides its Italian?
I noticed your Bianchi has a serial number I think mine is 4720? its the the number written sideways on the BB. Is this a decent bike? Should I not be cheap with the seat & bars?
Does this mean I can't lock it up oputside as my commuter bike?
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You can always cheap out on parts, but I'd just get what's comfortable. This could be an awesome ride for you. Enjoy it!
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Given that the World Championships take place in the late summer or early fall, the model is most likely a 1987 model or maybe even 1988. During that era, most 105 equipped bicycles sold for $500-$600 US, so yes it's a good price, provided it has not been damaged or abused (and based on the pictures, it does not appear to be).

Assuming an Italian manufactured frame from the 1980s, there should be a second section to the serial number, consisting of one letter and one number. It is often stamped at right angles to the other serial number portion and may be on the opposite side of the bottom bracket.

You don't mention any tubing decals. I would expect a Bianchi Formula Superset by Columbus. The Columbus reference would corroborate an Italian manufactured frame.

Given the era and components, I'm thinking it may be a Brava, which was a nice midrange bicycle, just below the Limited.
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... Assuming an Italian manufactured frame from the 1980s, there should be a second section to the serial number, consisting of one letter and one number. It is often stamped at right angles to the other serial number portion and may be on the opposite side of the bottom bracket. ...
In my case, the serial number wraps around the seat cluster lug, with the 1M on one side, a raised dot, and the 9914 on the other case. When did Bianchi switch to the BB shell?
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In my case, the serial number wraps around the seat cluster lug, with the 1M on one side, a raised dot, and the 9914 on the other case. When did Bianchi switch to the BB shell?
John, it would appear that Bianchi switched to the bottom bracket shell location for serial numbers around 1984. My data has examples using the seat lug for 1981-1983. All the serial number data I have for 1984-1989 was found on bottom bracket shells. This applies only to Italian manufactured frames. I'm still looking for examples outside 1981-1989, to see how far the format applies. Of course, more data for 1981-1989 is also useful to build the confidence level.
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