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Old 07-21-05, 11:02 AM   #1
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Montgomery Ward bikes made by Schwinn?

Hi everyone-

I've been on the lookout for an old beater tandem and found a seller the other week. It's an old cruiser-style tandem. The seller says it's got Montgomery Ward stickers on it, but was made by Schwinn. Any truth to that? He doesn't want too much for it, so I'm tempted to go for it regardless. Just curious if the claim was legitimate.

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I suppose anything's possible, but that would really surprise me. I can't picture Schwinn selling bikes to a competitor and allowing them to be re-badged; there was no reason for them to -- they didn't need the sales. One of the guys more versed in old Schwinn lore should be along soon and maybe they'll know something definitive.
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These old cruiser tandems @ 60 to 65 lbs. are great for running into walls, but not for riding.
Sincerely doubt Schwinn rebadged their tandems for Monky Ward.
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I seem to recall that Wards bikes were built mostly by Cleveland Weilding ,but some were monarks as wards did sell the silver king(under their house name of Hawthorn).And you might also tro in Huffy,Columbia,and Murray too.And before 1950 Schwinn built bikes for many people using what ever brand they wanted on them---only after 1950 did schwinn start using their name as a brand---sam
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At various times Schwinn did make some "low-end" tandems. Very heavy. Eventually, Schwinn insisted on putting a "Quality Built by Schwinn" decal on its bikes sold under other brands. At first, the other companies resisted putting the Schwinn name on their bikes. Later, it become a positive thing. But, Schwinn dealers did not like competing with the discount store across the street.

By the Fifties, Schwinn stopped making bikes for other brands. A Schwinn built bike was only sold at a Schwinn dealer. Then, in the '80's, Schwinn did the unthinkable. It put the Schwinn name on bikes built by "Huffy" type companies. That was a sad day.
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Like Alan says.
Ignaz Schwinn got his buisness rolling by building for other brands. the parents would bring the kids to the store and they would get "Mom can I have one". or the kids would drag the parents to the store and while they were there they would see some appliances or furniture they needed.
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As someone who had first a Montgomery Ward 3-speed and then 10-speed while growing up in the '70s I'm almost certain that none of the bikes then were made by Schwinn. In fact, I'm positive that the bikes I had were made by the (US) company that made Rollfast bikes, with pretty poor quality frames similar to all those other crappy US bikes of the '70s like Huffy, Columbia, Murray, etc.
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As someone who had first a Montgomery Ward 3-speed and then 10-speed while growing up in the '70s I'm almost certain that none of the bikes then were made by Schwinn. In fact, I'm positive that the bikes I had were made by the (US) company that made Rollfast bikes, with pretty poor quality frames similar to all those other crappy US bikes of the '70s like Huffy, Columbia, Murray, etc.
thanks for lending us your expertise.
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Can anyone help me with this Monty Ward bike

I just got this bike and it needs some work, new cables, rust removal, the three speed shifter has been unwound and bugger if I can get it to work. She's a fixer upper destined to be beautiful. Can anyone help me find parts, repair tips or guides, etc. Can anyone identify the original maker?
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Identified!

I've finally identified this bike. It is a Bridgestone model 80 outfitted for Monkey Wards with a Shimano 3 speed. Year of manufacture approximately 1986.

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I just got this bike and it needs some work, new cables, rust removal, the three speed shifter has been unwound and bugger if I can get it to work. She's a fixer upper destined to be beautiful. Can anyone help me find parts, repair tips or guides, etc. Can anyone identify the original maker?
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I wouldn't be surprised, but have no idea. Schwinn and Mont. Ward bikes are in the same class of bikes. Lower end and heavy. They last quite a while though.
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Then, in the '80's, Schwinn did the unthinkable. It put the Schwinn name on bikes built by "Huffy" type companies.
Alan, I'm certain that others will jump in here, but the "Schwinn Approved" badged road bikes from the mid '70s-'80s, made by the likes of Panasonic, Bridgestone, and Giant, were not low end bikes. A few, such as the Volare, Voyageur, and Super Le Tour 12.2, were highend to very good bikes. Lower priced ones like my Traveler and the basic model Le Tours, were solid bikes that have stood years of hard riding. When Schwinn had other companies build bikes for them, they insisted on as good, if not better quality. I don't really know a thing about Huffy bikes, but the few I've seen at the dump are of no comparison to my '79 Traveler made by Bridgestone which cost me $160 new.
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I wouldn't be surprised, but have no idea. Schwinn and Mont. Ward bikes are in the same class of bikes. Lower end and heavy.
Schwinn Electro-Forged bikes, i.e. Collegiates, Varsities, Continentals, yes they are heavy (35-40 lbs.), but they are a far cry from low-end. But don't forget who these bikes were marketed towards--- teenagers and the parents buying the bike. Weight was not a concern. Those customers were in the market for a solid, unbreakable, reliable, low maintenance bicycle. Schwinn delivered on all counts. For the serious rider, they made the Paramount. If you would like, I can provide pictures to illustrate.
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