lolanose

hola, as we say down san antonio way. i'm in the midst of rehabbing my eddy merckx criterium frame, goofed up with a super record campy gruppo. man, the lingo comes back to you after 15 years or so....

anyways, it's got shimano pd 7401 pedals on it. my recollection of those puppies is that they locked my feet in one position. in that era there was a lot of discussion about how these type of ski style bindings would grind one's knees into powder because there was no lateral motion. back then, i recall "time" pedals were the only alternative that would allow "float."

a handy google search for new cleats indicates that look brand cleats fit, and not only that, that "red" look cleats allow float.

now, i'm no component historian, but am i missing something? the cleats allow the float? huh? the cleats i have fitted on my greg lemond neon and silver shoes don't allow any float.....

am i to understand that my path to a happy knee is merely the purchase of some "red" look cleats?

as an aside, it's extreme disconcerting to have my pedals referred to as "vintage" it makes me wonder what i am......old?

USAZorro

"Look" style pedals have a mechanism that mates the cleat (which is attached to the shoe by screws) to the pedal. Look makes three different types of cleats. Black ones have no float, gray have 4 or 4.5 degrees of float, red ones have 9 degrees. The front mating edge of the pedal/cleat is an arc. I think the black cleats are shaped exactly like the front and side edges of the pedal. The grey and red are shaped the same in the front, but the edges are missing just enough material to let them swivel a bit - hence the float.

I hope this makes sense. If not, maybe they have a web site with illustrations.

Mhendricks

Zorro is right. I have Look pedals and cleats (9 degree) and I'm going to tell you that they are the best thing next to peanut butter! I've always used toe clips until someone told me to try these and I'll never go back!!! Best thing I did for me knees. Just my opinion.

lolanose

awesome. got it. wow whee. no need to buy new pedals...15 years later and they're still gonna work.

thanks!