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    Quote Originally Posted by andyfloyd View Post
    So the carbon frame bikes are just too stiff....that sucks. I guess I never really thought about it but I do really love the way steel feels on the trails. I kind of want to add a air/coil fork to my Univega to give it a little more trail ability but at the same time I dont want to add weight when the bike is sub 25lbs.

    My trek is a composite frame made with aluminum and carbon, and the carbon is just round tubes, shaped just like your typical steel tubes. Full carbon frames can be designed in custom shapes to have stiffness in some directions and flex in others. the Aluminum stays probably contribute a fair amount to how much of the road feel is transferred to one's butt

    I haven't ridden this bike a ton so it's hard to give it a complete review, but it definitely feels different from steel and doesn't seem to soak up the bumps quite the same way. I will have to wait and see how it rides once i get the fit dialed in and set up the cockpit. Strangely, even though the distance from the saddle to the bars is longer than on some of my other bikes, it feels too small still.

    I'd really like to get this thing down around 24 lbs or less.. I was surprised when it came in at 26lbs. No sense giving up the ride of steel if it's not significantly lighter imo...
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    Posted one pic of this Sekai Conquest a while ago, here are some better ones. I'm doing everything I can not to add to my MTB collection but this one makes it tough...







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    Is that a Takagi with Biopace rings? Cool! Love the chrome!,,,,BD
    The one good thing about black cork wrap is that it's better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodenameHardHat View Post
    96? Ritchey Softail. Orginaly came with the first generation Rock Shox Judy SL. Blew it up, and put the stock fork back on. Full XTR.





    lovely bike indeed, I dreamed back in the days to own one but never had the means to afford one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retrobikeguy View Post
    Ok, trimble inverse 4 finished for now, few changes to happen yet but its built and rideable now

    Certainly noticeable, bit of a mix of old and not so old but I really wanted to be able to ride this with comfort and reliability.





    also upgraded the black kestrel - tange switchblades hung up and now its fitted with some RS-1 forks

    two very nice and superb bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by dookie View Post
    see http://www.retrobike.co.uk for lots more.

    my (silver-brazed in japan) paramount:

    lovely purple paramount

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    Why are you digging up these ancient posts? these were posted 6 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by plodderslusk View Post
    Tried to post this two other places with zero response so maybe this is the right place.
    Fleamarkt season is on here in Norway and todays catch is this, an 89-90 Merida Aluminum MTB. It was decked out out with fenders, kickstand, lights and a dynamo but I wanted to see how it performed as intended so I "cleaned " it up, put on some weird VP pedals and my old Brooks and took it for spin. Had no idea bonded aluminium could feel so harsh! Biopace HP was much better thanfirst generation BP and the bike was nice on fireroads. Paid 50 $ so no real catch perhaps but the wheelset alone is worth it to me. Early XT is pretty nice stuff !




    You have a Merida Al Bon from 1990-1991 which has the pre sti shimano stuff. It is a very good and very sure ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blilrat View Post
    Why are you digging up these ancient posts? these were posted 6 years ago
    I appreciate older mountain bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blilrat View Post
    Why are you digging up these ancient posts? these were posted 6 years ago
    don't you mean vintage posts?
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    This is the only bike(in my possession) that I've owned since new. I bought it in 1994. It is a Mongoose Amplifier(re-labeled AMP Research B2 or B3). Except for tires and brake pads, this how I had it built up originally. Might be a stretch for vintage, but it is pushing twenty years almost.

    I need to ride it more


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    Roger, now that is a really cool bike. I would call that one a classic.

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    Easter morning ride on one of my current projects. late 70's BMX cruiser converted to MTB back in the day:



    In 1979 if you couldn't afford or find one of those new fangled MTB's but wanted something more than a pre war Schwinn, you did this. Champion double down tube Cruiser converted to MTB BITD.
    Seek: Early 80's Mountain Goat Bar/Stem Combo.

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    Grabbed this 1994 (1995?) Diamondback Apex today off CL for cheap.. components are ok, nothing too exciting (Deore LX) but the frame is True Temper TT Lite, which is rebranded custom butted True Temper OXII! First time i've owned a bike with suspension (Judy RockShox).. I don't know how to tell if the fork is blown out though.. it's squishy when i lift the front end and i think i would like it firmer (or totally rigid!) Bike looks like it's gotten heavy use, drivetrain is worn out -- gears were slipping all over the place on the test ride, even lose the chain off the big ring.. in my head I'm like, well this will make it easier to get the seller to come down on their price!

    It weighs 25.8 lbs "as found"... which is slightly lighter than the carbon and aluminum composite frame i picked up earlier this week for a lot more $. The tires on this bike are smaller and probably lighter, but still, you'd think crabon would be significantly lighter

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    Bringing her home like a boss with my 1986 Diamondback Apex.. 10 years of Diamondback tech! In those ten years, the frame has gotten lighter and is now True Temper instead of Tange, and shimano has introduced indexing and hyperglide shifting, but the Apex is no longer speced with top of the line components and runs Deore LX instead of Deore XT





    For a few years in the mid 90s, Diamondback speced the Apex with the same frame as the steel Axis but the component level was much lower.. in 1996 they kept the high end frame but dropped down the components to STX level, and in 97 i think the Apex no longer came with the TT Lite but was back down to the more common True Temper AVR.
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    Found a 1994 Diamondback Response Elite on CL for $50, I just spent another $50 and about 16 hours of work making it a rider. Like this one^^^^.




    It's a fast bike, it weighs about 25 with the oil suspension fork, which soaked up a rough railroad track crossing like a champ today. It's double butted True Temper chromoly steel. I painted the fork a matching color to the frame, (Duplicolor car paint).
    I'm really liking this one as a rider!
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    ^ nice.. i suspect we've got identical frames.. i picked mine up for $55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shp4man View Post
    Found a 1994 Diamondback Response Elite on CL for $50, I just spent another $50 and about 16 hours of work making it a rider. Like this one^^^^.




    It's a fast bike, it weighs about 25 with the oil suspension fork, which soaked up a rough railroad track crossing like a champ today. It's double butted True Temper chromoly steel. I painted the fork a matching color to the frame, (Duplicolor car paint).
    I'm really liking this one as a rider!
    Very nice diamondback and true temper tubing is very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post
    Grabbed this 1994 (1995?) Diamondback Apex today off CL for cheap.. components are ok, nothing too exciting (Deore LX) but the frame is True Temper TT Lite, which is rebranded custom butted True Temper OXII! First time i've owned a bike with suspension (Judy RockShox).. I don't know how to tell if the fork is blown out though.. it's squishy when i lift the front end and i think i would like it firmer (or totally rigid!) Bike looks like it's gotten heavy use, drivetrain is worn out -- gears were slipping all over the place on the test ride, even lose the chain off the big ring.. in my head I'm like, well this will make it easier to get the seller to come down on their price!

    It weighs 25.8 lbs "as found"... which is slightly lighter than the carbon and aluminum composite frame i picked up earlier this week for a lot more $. The tires on this bike are smaller and probably lighter, but still, you'd think crabon would be significantly lighter

    Seller's pic



    Bringing her home like a boss with my 1986 Diamondback Apex.. 10 years of Diamondback tech! In those ten years, the frame has gotten lighter and is now True Temper instead of Tange, and shimano has introduced indexing and hyperglide shifting, but the Apex is no longer speced with top of the line components and runs Deore LX instead of Deore XT





    For a few years in the mid 90s, Diamondback speced the Apex with the same frame as the steel Axis but the component level was much lower.. in 1996 they kept the high end frame but dropped down the components to STX level, and in 97 i think the Apex no longer came with the TT Lite but was back down to the more common True Temper AVR.
    True Temper OXII is a high end steel and it gives the frame some real nervosity, lightness and comfort. OXII was comparable to the Columbus Genius atb and Dedda DR Zero steel Frame. Good catchYou can make your bike lighter by probaby equiping it with some older crossmax tubless wheels, xty 10 speed group and a carbon fork
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    That Champion squareback is the bee's knees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemmer View Post
    Easter morning ride on one of my current projects. late 70's BMX cruiser converted to MTB back in the day:



    In 1979 if you couldn't afford or find one of those new fangled MTB's but wanted something more than a pre war Schwinn, you did this. Champion double down tube Cruiser converted to MTB BITD.
    whoa sweet
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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post
    My trek is a composite frame made with aluminum and carbon, and the carbon is just round tubes, shaped just like your typical steel tubes. Full carbon frames can be designed in custom shapes to have stiffness in some directions and flex in others. the Aluminum stays probably contribute a fair amount to how much of the road feel is transferred to one's butt

    I haven't ridden this bike a ton so it's hard to give it a complete review, but it definitely feels different from steel and doesn't seem to soak up the bumps quite the same way. I will have to wait and see how it rides once i get the fit dialed in and set up the cockpit. Strangely, even though the distance from the saddle to the bars is longer than on some of my other bikes, it feels too small still.

    I'd really like to get this thing down around 24 lbs or less.. I was surprised when it came in at 26lbs. No sense giving up the ride of steel if it's not significantly lighter imo...
    I agree if all things are equal in terms of weight and you have steel, aluminum, and carbon which bike would you prefer? Its gotta be steel because of its ability to make the ride more comfortable due to its inherent abilty to "soak" up some of the bumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frantik View Post
    Grabbed this 1994 (1995?) Diamondback Apex today off CL for cheap.. components are ok, nothing too exciting (Deore LX) but the frame is True Temper TT Lite, which is rebranded custom butted True Temper OXII! First time i've owned a bike with suspension (Judy RockShox).. I don't know how to tell if the fork is blown out though.. it's squishy when i lift the front end and i think i would like it firmer (or totally rigid!) Bike looks like it's gotten heavy use, drivetrain is worn out -- gears were slipping all over the place on the test ride, even lose the chain off the big ring.. in my head I'm like, well this will make it easier to get the seller to come down on their price!

    It weighs 25.8 lbs "as found"... which is slightly lighter than the carbon and aluminum composite frame i picked up earlier this week for a lot more $. The tires on this bike are smaller and probably lighter, but still, you'd think crabon would be significantly lighter

    Seller's pic



    Bringing her home like a boss with my 1986 Diamondback Apex.. 10 years of Diamondback tech! In those ten years, the frame has gotten lighter and is now True Temper instead of Tange, and shimano has introduced indexing and hyperglide shifting, but the Apex is no longer speced with top of the line components and runs Deore LX instead of Deore XT





    For a few years in the mid 90s, Diamondback speced the Apex with the same frame as the steel Axis but the component level was much lower.. in 1996 they kept the high end frame but dropped down the components to STX level, and in 97 i think the Apex no longer came with the TT Lite but was back down to the more common True Temper AVR.
    Looks like you got a nice rider right there, now you have your steel bike that will be sub 25lbs. The weight makes all the difference trust me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyfloyd View Post
    I agree if all things are equal in terms of weight and you have steel, aluminum, and carbon which bike would you prefer? Its gotta be steel because of its ability to make the ride more comfortable due to its inherent abilty to "soak" up some of the bumps.
    Crabon soaks up bumps even better than steel.

    In fact, as it ages and the miles add up it soaks them up better and better and better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyfloyd View Post
    I agree if all things are equal in terms of weight and you have steel, aluminum, and carbon which bike would you prefer? Its gotta be steel because of its ability to make the ride more comfortable due to its inherent abilty to "soak" up some of the bumps.
    I would probably say steel but I haven't really spent much time on the trek. There may be other advantages I haven't discovered, and I'm going in with some prejudices already, but I'm trying to keep an open mind.

    I do have to admit the fact that the steel diamondback I just picked up is slighter lighter than the carbon/alu trek does kind of annoy me... I'm hoping the frame has some advantage over a similarly weighted steel frame.. besides looking really cool that is
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    Hey vintage MTB'ers , this is probably more of a light trail / gravel grinder type bike but I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the 26ers offered by Maruishi ?

    I'm looking at picking up this bike (mostly for components / wheels for another build) but would probably 're build' it for my dad as just a mess around / do anything bike.

    Not a great pic , but the only one I've got at the moment. Specs?

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