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Old 05-03-06, 09:58 PM   #1
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Bike sure looks nice - should I go for it?

So I found this really pristine looking Univega Gran Touring on Craigslist today for $140. The price seems a wee bit high to me, especially since my preferable budget is $100, but damn, it sure looks nice, with index shifters and all.

Should I spring for it? 18 speeds with a triple crankset, Suntour indexed components, steel frame.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/bik/157217403.html

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If this is the Gran Turismo, it's either double-butted or triple-butted CrMo, with a full complement of touring braze-ons. In my opinion, a bike of that quality is well worth $140.

EDIT: Try to find out if the model is actually "Gran Touring" or "Gran Turismo." Also, there should be a sticker on it that tells you what tubing was used (double-butted or triple-butted).
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It's triple-butted indeed. Here's the rough spec sheet from the Craigslist posting:

Tange chromoly triple-butted frame
Chromoly fork (with front pannier braze-on mounts)
18-speeds (6-speed freewheel and triple crankset)
Suntour XCE triple crankset
Suntour Accushift 4050 XCE rear derailleur
Suntour 4050 XCE front derailleur
Suntour Accushift downtube shifters (indexed rear shifter)
Dia-Compe BSR Edge aero brake levers
Dia-Compe XCE cantilever brake calipers
Sovos hubs
Weinnman rims (27x1-1/4)
Blackburn rack
Norco Axiom Pannier

Can you tell me a little about the difference between "Gran Touring" and "Gran Turismo"? Anyway, thanks for the help so far.
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Old 05-03-06, 10:59 PM   #4
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It's triple-butted indeed. Here's the rough spec sheet from the Craigslist posting:

Tange chromoly triple-butted frame
Chromoly fork (with front pannier braze-on mounts)
18-speeds (6-speed freewheel and triple crankset)
Suntour XCE triple crankset
Suntour Accushift 4050 XCE rear derailleur
Suntour 4050 XCE front derailleur
Suntour Accushift downtube shifters (indexed rear shifter)
Dia-Compe BSR Edge aero brake levers
Dia-Compe XCE cantilever brake calipers
Sovos hubs
Weinnman rims (27x1-1/4)
Blackburn rack
Norco Axiom Pannier

Can you tell me a little about the difference between "Gran Touring" and "Gran Turismo"? Anyway, thanks for the help so far.
I've never heard of a Gran Touring, but I've got a Gran Turismo. Of course it's possible that there was a Gran Touring model, because there were lots of Univega models, but I suspect it's a Gran Turismo. I think for the Seattle area, that's probably a good price for a triple-butted Chromoly frame. I'm in Portland, and I regularly see lesser frames advertised on Craigslist at higher prices than that.

I'd have to do a bit of research on suntour components to know what's on there. The potential weak spot I see is the 27x 1 1/4 wheels-- could maybe be a bit beefier for loaded touring. I'd have to look into that as well, but something to consider before loading it up for a tour. EDIT: I looked at the specs on my 27" wheeled bike, and the wheels on the Univega are actually wider, so I would say they're fine for the job, especially if they have 36 or 40 spoke hubs.

I can't tell you what YOU should do, but if I were looking for a touring bike, I wouldn't hesitate to buy that one.

If your budget is $100, try dickering on the price. That would be an awesomw bike for $100.

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Just checked the SunTour Timeline, and XCE appears to be the low-end of the XC line, but not the low-end of SunTour components-- about mid-range, and 1989 vintage.

On the price-- I've got a Gran Turismo frameset that I picked up free. Well, not exactly free, because I traded a Swiss thread BB for it. But it's just a frameset, and by the time I get it built up, I can assure you it will cost me well over the $140 this person is asking. Even if I tried to build it to the same level as this bike, I doubt I could do it for $140. That's why I wouldn't hesitate to buy this one.
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Nice looking bike, despite the index shifting.
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I'd say it's a deal at $140, consider yourself lucky to get it for $125. Look at it this way - the extra $ is only a few six packs of microbrew, just cut your beer consumption a little for a month.



If the pannier comes with it, that alone is probably worth $25.
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If it's your size it's a deal at that price.
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