Rab

Hall all.jpg

Nervex.jpg

Hall Seat post s.jpg

Hall chainring2.jpg

Hall dropouts2.jpgNervex lugs, Nervex stamped on bottom bracket, Mavic rims on Campy hubs, Dura ace gears, SR crank, sticker reads
"built by J.M. Hall, Craigavon" but I think this is just the bike shop that assembled the bike,
It is in pretty bad shape, but is complete, would it be worth saving ? Anyone know what type of bike it is ?
Thanks
Rab

edit- I now know that the bike is a 1964 Allin Stan Butler, which was upgraded by J M Hall in craigavon in the `70`s

roughrider504

My best guess would be that it was built by a custom frame builder. Yes it is worth saving.

cyclotoine

Wow, did you pull that out of the dump? Very worth saving, you can bet it's reynolds 531. What does the downtube say?

Little Darwin

Blue...

and purty too!

I reckon with a little work it oughta be even purtier!

And here I am with a twenty burnin' a hole in my pocket if'n you wanna toss it my way.

Rab

The bike has been lying in my fathers shed for about 15 years, it was given to him by a guy he used to do house repairs for, the guy told him that it was an Alan bike, but as far as I know all Alan`s were aluminium framed, he also said that he had had it repainted at some time, so none of the decals are original, the only decal that is on the seat tube is a Dura Ace sticker.

cyclotoine

keep us posted as you clean it up/restore it!

lotek 

Alan is an italian marque, all Aluminium frames.
There is something about that bike that say "Constructeur" to me,
along the lines of Herse, Singer, Routens, Delcroix. . .
maybe it's the racks, fenders etc. but it looks like a classic
french Randonneur bike.

Marty

drewnolan82

That's a restore job and a half! Worth it though..nice lugs...doesn't look to rusted...frame looks good under all that crap-ola.

cyclotoine

how much do you want to bet you are going to have to cut that post out. Now would be a good time to buy a jab saw if you don't already have one.

Rab

My father has managed to contact the original owner on the phone and has solved the Alan problem,
its not an Alan, as I already new, the confusion came from the spelling of the name.

Its an Allin, by A.H. Allin of Croyden England, the model is a Stan Butler, it was built in 1964

Rab

Here is some info on the Allin make

https://www.oldbicycle.co.uk/marques/allin/hist.htm

bikingshearer 

Unbelieveably cool find. After reading the article, it would be a crime not to clean it up. If it is a 1964 frame, as your source says, a bunch of the components have to have been added significantly later (definitely the rear derailleur and the pedals, probably the cranks), although those brakes look like period-correct old-time Universal 51 sidepulls (what we would consider normal length calipers on the front, what we would consider ridiculously long calipers on the back).

Don't get me wrong, I am not a period-correct purist - I have no beef with folks who are, I just can't afford the cost or time to go that route. However it gets built up, that beauty deserves to be ridden again. It has too much history not to be, IMHO.

roughrider504

From the pictures, it dosent look like it will take too long to get it clean again.

When I got my Raleigh, it was marked down to a lower price because of its condition. Nothing mechanical, just the apperance. It looked much like your bike. The picture is after cleaning

A tip I can give is: get a comfortable area to work, and the work will go by faster, and it will be less draining.

Sammyboy

That's a very cool find. If I were you, I would join the Classics Rendezvous discussion list, where you will certainly find out more about that bike.

kyledr

Yeah, check out sheldon brown's stuck seat post guide cause I bet you're gonna need it. I had a terrible time with my aluminum seat post that was rusted in, but I kept spraying ammonia in there with a spray bottle until it dissolved the aluminum oxide and we were able to take a really big monkey wrench and pry it off. Scratched up the seat post bad, but at least we got it out.

Rab

Seat Post is out ! it was quite well siezed in, but after removing the seat I was able to remove one of the barrel nuts in the head of the seatpost, I put a steel bar through this hole and was able to get a little twisting motion going, it was very tight at first, but a little release oil and some more twisting seen the post come right out.

Little Darwin

Things are looking better and better!!!

Best of luck on the rest of the project!

cyclotoine

WOw! I should be so lucky! I have sawn way to many seatpost out.

Rab

WoW !! Just have been speaking in person to the gentleman who owned the bike when new in 1964 !!!
He has most of the original Campy gear that was on the bike when new, its been in a bag in his garage since he upgraded to Dura Ace and SR in 1978 !!! He is going to pass it on to me hopefully this weekend.
I will keep you guys posted !!

Between this news and the seatpost comming out----now I gotta do a resto !!

Little Darwin

NOW YOU ARE JUST RUBBING IT IN!!!!

You have to love it when a plan comes together like this...

You have a project that you will remember fondly for as long as you live.

I will take full credit for wishing you good luck on the project...

jet sanchEz

Wow, I really like this bike and the story that goes along with it. Fun. Am I the only one who loves the fenders on it? They don't make them like that anymore; if you don't use them, let me know