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Old 08-25-06, 10:39 AM
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dating a masi?

i have read a fair amount of the masi websites on-line (i.e., most of the stuff at / referenced by https://www.bates-lee.com/masi/), but was still having trouble figuring out the date of this frame.

the seller sent me these (rough) pictures:





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one more pic...

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mmm, she's nice. If I weren't married, I'd be looking to date a bike like that too.


OK Sorry - and I'm afraid I have no idea about your bike. Perhaps there is some info on www.classicrendezvous.com though

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mmm, she's nice. If I weren't married, I'd be looking to date a bike like that too.


OK Sorry - and I'm afraid I have no idea about your bike. Perhaps there is some info on www.classicrendezvous.com though

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yeah, i hit CR a bunch.
something just seems weird.
the fork style seems a bit off...
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Spec'd and imported by Masi USA, built in Italy, possibly painted domesticly, one of two second tier frames, other being the Gran Corsa, don't know the pecking order for sure. The images would not fully load for me, so I did not see the serial number, might have the system of: quarter of the year, by alpha (a being the first quarter) followed by the last two digits of the year, then a number of for the X frame for that quarter.

I suspect mid later 80's, these bikes fight for respect but appear quite nice. At this point they are probably undervalued.
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Spec'd and imported by Masi USA, built in Italy, possibly painted domesticly, one of two second tier frames, other being the Gran Corsa, don't know the pecking order for sure. The images would not fully load for me, so I did not see the serial number, might have the system of: quarter of the year, by alpha (a being the first quarter) followed by the last two digits of the year, then a number of for the X frame for that quarter.

I suspect mid later 80's, these bikes fight for respect but appear quite nice. At this point they are probably undervalued.
ahhhh, seller claimed 1970s.
the serial didn't follow what i have seen by Brian Baylis.
it is "60R077". any broad shots at an approx. value?
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If the seller thinks he has an exclusive Italian Masi of the Vigorelli... good luck

Value is hard to say from the images, I see probably Simplex (could be Modolo badged Simplex) retrofriction shifters, a nice headset, probable nice bar & stem combo mid quality seatpost and who knows what saddle, possibly Dia Compe brakes maybe even Universal 77's Don't see drivetrain, or wheels.

Does it fit?
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Originally Posted by repechage
If the seller thinks he has an exclusive Italian Masi of the Vigorelli... good luck

Value is hard to say from the images, I see probably Simplex (could be Modolo badged Simplex) retrofriction shifters, a nice headset, probable nice bar & stem combo mid quality seatpost and who knows what saddle, possibly Dia Compe brakes maybe even Universal 77's Don't see drivetrain, or wheels.

Does it fit?
it seemingly fits me. however, it is a seller from a different city, so i haven't seen the bike first hand...

the seller didn't pitched it as a italian masi ever. but def said, it was a 70s masi. they weren't looking for anything to high in terms of money ($400 for the frame + $375 for some edco / campy components). however, the paint isn't perfect (and with my uncertainity over a 70s v. 80s masi, it is doubteful i will buy it).
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No way is it a 70's bike. Later 80's if anything. Be nice rider for $300-$400 if the frame is clean.
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Mid 80's at the earliest. Front braze-on derailleur hangers appeared around 84, the paint job looks more late 80's to me personally. I'd still buy it if it was reasonable, but it isn't a model the " mazis' " dig.

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Reference this:

https://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Cat.../masi-tsd4.jpg

Pretty darn close I think.

Note the year, 1988

The seller is misinformed.
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https://www.bulgier.net/pics/bike/Cat.../masi-tsd4.jpg

that might be better, it seemed to drop some characters
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