80s Peugeot... hard to find parts?
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80s Peugeot... hard to find parts?
I found an 80's Peugeot bike, don't know what model it is... going to drive down and check it out, maybe buy it today.
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Just for aesthetics I am in love with this bike... but I don't know if the components are in good enough condition to ride as-is.
The description of the parts is:
Reynolds 501 lugged frame, Mavic 700cc wheels/rims with tube/tires. Shimano 105 headset. Specialized stem, cinelli bar. Weinman 405 front/rear brakes. Heliomatic rear hub, malliard front hub, sachs rear der. Sachs/huret crank and leather seat.
I know nothing about old bikes. I know this is a steel frame, and that it's around my size, and I like the paintjob. Do these older components hold up? I know the french bikes use a lot of nonstandard sizes and the parts are hard to come by... I've also heard nasty things about the Heliomatic hub. Any help identifying the bike would be great too... I looked around a lot and couldn't find out much based on the paint/decals... it looks an awful lot like a bike listed as a PG10/ID on this 1988 peugeot catalog
https://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/images/1988_1.jpg
Is this a keeper or garbage? He's asking $125 for it...
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Just for aesthetics I am in love with this bike... but I don't know if the components are in good enough condition to ride as-is.
The description of the parts is:
Reynolds 501 lugged frame, Mavic 700cc wheels/rims with tube/tires. Shimano 105 headset. Specialized stem, cinelli bar. Weinman 405 front/rear brakes. Heliomatic rear hub, malliard front hub, sachs rear der. Sachs/huret crank and leather seat.
I know nothing about old bikes. I know this is a steel frame, and that it's around my size, and I like the paintjob. Do these older components hold up? I know the french bikes use a lot of nonstandard sizes and the parts are hard to come by... I've also heard nasty things about the Heliomatic hub. Any help identifying the bike would be great too... I looked around a lot and couldn't find out much based on the paint/decals... it looks an awful lot like a bike listed as a PG10/ID on this 1988 peugeot catalog
https://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/images/1988_1.jpg
Is this a keeper or garbage? He's asking $125 for it...
Last edited by anticoriolis; 09-10-06 at 11:43 AM.
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The Weinmann brakes are probably original as I had one identical to this. They are date stamped and that should give you a pretty close year of manufacture.
I also have most of the original parts to this. If you are in need, PM me.
I also have most of the original parts to this. If you are in need, PM me.
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Nice machine - not a bargain at $125, but worth it if you can't find anything else.
For that price though, insist that the handlebar stem and seatpost binders be loosened, and both stem and post be spun to make sure neither are stuck in the frame.
If either are stuck, don't bother with it, or attempt to offer an extremely low price.
-Kurt
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For that price though, insist that the handlebar stem and seatpost binders be loosened, and both stem and post be spun to make sure neither are stuck in the frame.
If either are stuck, don't bother with it, or attempt to offer an extremely low price.
-Kurt
Edit: Rewording for clarity
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It's a good match for a mid-1980s PGN10, with the exception of the bar and stem which are probably replacements. I don't think it's as modern as 1988, based on the decals. And if you're going to check for pieces stuck in the frame, check the seat post, as that is even more critical.
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Oops forgot to address the other parts of your query! In my opinion, the reliability on the listed French parts is as good as comparable parts from the era, with the excpetion of the Maillard Helicometic hub, which do have a poor reputation. To make things worse, replacement parts for the hub are hard to come by. So I'd remove the wheels and make sure the axles spins smoothly.
As for price, that varies so much depending on the local market conditions, that it's very hard to judge. Then there is question of mechanical and cosmetic condition. Assuming it is a mid 1980s PGN10, original price would have been around $400-$450 US.
As for price, that varies so much depending on the local market conditions, that it's very hard to judge. Then there is question of mechanical and cosmetic condition. Assuming it is a mid 1980s PGN10, original price would have been around $400-$450 US.
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If one is willing to replace the rear wheel, the only parts in short supply are bottom bracket cups and possibly seat posts. It is no big trick to sand an ISO 22.2mm handlebar stem to 22.0mm. Sheldon has a great article on how to adapt old French bikes for continued service.
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thanks
Thanks everybody! Much appreciated. The bike turned out to be a little too large for me, if anyone needs a 60cm bike in San Jose, it's on Craigslist!
Hopefully another one will come up in my size...
Hopefully another one will come up in my size...
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Originally Posted by anticoriolis
... The bike turned out to be a little too large for me, if anyone needs a 60cm bike in San Jose, it's on Craigslist! ...
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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I don't think the poor reputation of the Maillard Helicometic hub is deserved. I'm 175lbs and I often ride one of these ---with my child in her seat behind me, on 10-20mile journeys and have had no problems.
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Originally Posted by RK1963
I don't think the poor reputation of the Maillard Helicometic hub is deserved. ...
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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For replacement parts with the Helicomatic hub, try Yellow Jersey in Madison, Wisconsin. They are on the web. They don't have every Helicomatic part; it depends on the model. But I was able to get extra cogs for this hub through them. I have a PGN10 and love the ride, and I am over 200LBs.