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Old 09-13-06, 08:38 AM   #1
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Beautiful Raleigh - Captivating Description

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Old 09-13-06, 09:18 AM   #2
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Beware. The fork is not the style I would expect to see on this bike. It also looks like there may be a paint drip on the top of the Reynolds sticker. It's possible that this is truly what it's represented to be (there's no doubt in my mind that it is a '78 Raleigh frame built in Worksop, and that from the style it looks like it could be a Professional model frame), but I'd be reluctant to lay out $600+ until the questions were satisfactorily resolved.
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Fork is correct, and so are the cutout lugs for this year Professional. See the attached 1980's Raleigh Pro frameset photo (from Bulger.net).

As for the price - forget it. You fellows missed out on a real bargain for a Raleigh Team Pro on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Raleigh-Not...QQcmdZViewItem

Not mint, but you could easily restore and professionally repaint it for less then the cost of this Team Pro in Germany.

P.S.: Don't you think Raleigh was rather cheap in leaving the dropout slots unchromed on the Pro?

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Yeah, chrome rear drops are where it's at!
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Old 09-13-06, 01:20 PM   #5
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The real prize is the Team in 753 not 531.
I see these 531 tubed frames on
a dutch auction site quite often. Some of them are Joop Zoetemelk
models, some Hennie Kuiper all 531.

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Yeah, chrome rear drops are where it's at!
Agreed. Heck, by '77, the lower-end Super Course had chromed dropouts - you would think that it wouldn't be too hard for them to adapt such chromework to the Pro, eh?

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Fork is correct, and so are the cutout lugs for this year Professional. See the attached 1980's Raleigh Pro frameset photo (from Bulger.net).

As for the price - forget it. You fellows missed out on a real bargain for a Raleigh Team Pro on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Raleigh-Not...QQcmdZViewItem

Not mint, but you could easily restore and professionally repaint it for less then the cost of this Team Pro in Germany.

P.S.: Don't you think Raleigh was rather cheap in leaving the dropout slots unchromed on the Pro?

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Kurt,

As the serial number indicates a 1978 frame, I referenced the 1978 catalog. The picture isn't especially clear, but it looked to me like the fork was still the Cinelli style one. Of course, this being Raleigh... But anyways, I still think I see some paint on the 531 sticker. Not trying to trash a guy's auction, but when you're talking about a model like this that has so many variations and near look-alikes, it pays to be a bit cautious.
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I don't think that is paint on the sticker. Rather, I think the sticker scraped away a little, and what you are seeing is the red paint that would usually be under the sticker.

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I don't think that is paint on the sticker. Rather, I think the sticker scraped away a little, and what you are seeing is the red paint that would usually be under the sticker.

Nice looking bike

I think you might be right about the sticker.
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The real prize is the Team in 753 not 531.
I see these 531 tubed frames on
a dutch auction site quite often. Some of them are Joop Zoetemelk
models, some Hennie Kuiper all 531.

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All else being equal, how much lighter would the 753 frame be?
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All else being equal, how much lighter would the 753 frame be?
Depends on the size of the frame. About 6-8 oz difference.
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The fork is authentic to that model/year, I have the same frame.
Essentially it was a Pro, painted in TEAM colors.
The reason that chrome isn't on Genuine 753 frames is because Reynolds discouraged chroming, it causes rust & eventual fatigue.
NOTE: Genuine team frames generally were made in Ilkeston, not Nottingham or Worksop.
I still long for one of the Genuine (made by the late Gerald O'Donovan, master builder - TI Raleigh) frames.

Might get lucky and find a used one someday.
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