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Old 10-11-06, 07:10 AM
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Adding a Dura-Ace to a Varsity?

I've reached a roadblock on my Varsity project. I was given a Dura-Ace derailleur in a box of cast-off parts from a co-worker. I took the "hanger" out of the Varsity derailleur and while it fits on the Dura-Ace, something isn't right. When mounted in the dropout, the Dura-Ace is too high. It needs to come down maybe half an inch. The Varsity doesn't have an integral hanger nor does it have holes to attach a replaceable one (well, maybe the fender hole could be used).

A) Has anyone ever successfully attached another derailleur to a Varsity, Continental, or anything that uses a dropout mounted hanger?

B) How do I determine where that derailleur needs to hang so I know I have a hanger that will work?

C) Where would I find a hanger that would work or am I going to need to get some steel plate and the coping saw?

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(BTW, the 600 crank is in there and I have come up with a way to cover it with the rusty, chromed pie plate!)
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Bob,

I can't give specific guidance, but let me suggest one possibility based on my experience of hanging a late '70's Shimano 400 RD on my '66 Collegiate. You might need to go to the LBS and find a different hanger, one that will work with Shimano RDs. Pictured below is what I did. Considering the Schwinn EF frames are basically the same your Dura Ace should work. One hiccup was what to do with the cable? The 400 came off my Traveler and it has a stop brazed onto the stay (at the right edge of the second photo). The Collegiate didn't have a stop because the old Huret Sprint RD had a stop built into the hanger. I ended up running a cable with a continuous casing from the shifter to the RD (third photo). Good luck.
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Yeah, its likely you need a newer style hanger. I think I got mine from loosescrews.com or somewhere simular. Your LBS should have some as well.
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Thanks, guys! Bob, that is just what I was thinking it would have to look like. Lucikly the Varsity has a stop built in on the chainstay that I can use. Did you drill a hole in the dropout for the screw that attaches the hanger or is it just goinging through the dropout? If you did drill a hole, is it tapped or is there a nut on the other side? Heck, is it this?
https://loosescrews.com/index.cgi?d=s...d=121746122503

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That loosescrews item is what I have used... and I think it is what Pastor Bob has pictured.

And the screw and special nut fit right into the dropout, no drilling necessary. As long as you have horizontal dropouts, these are great!

The last time I ordered, they sent me a black one instead of silver, but it seems identical otherwise...
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Little Darwin has said what I would! Great advise from everyone!
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