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Old 12-10-06, 05:41 PM   #1
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Paramount Shill

A very sad day. just listed my Paramount on Ebay. Given the new spoused imposed (and garage space required) one bike in, one bike out, rule, something had to give with the acquistion of the Giant.

The bike has historical value, mostly for me for my personal memeories, but it also was the best Paramount ever built and the last great bike built by the original Schwinn company.

Really didn't want to part with it, but just didn't see tehre would be too many occassions to ride the backup, backup road bike. So off it goes.

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I don't have anything nearly as nice as that Paramount -- not even close, but I know one thing. You will regret it.
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Old 12-10-06, 06:08 PM   #3
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If I knew that price wouldn't go up into the stratosphere, I, personally, wouldn't regret it

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If I knew that price wouldn't go up into the stratosphere, I, personally, wouldn't regret it
Depends if the proceeds will go into a wallet or a purse, doesn't it?
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Old 12-10-06, 06:43 PM   #6
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Depends if the proceeds will go into a wallet or a purse, doesn't it?
I think he means he'd gladly take it for $250...but, alas, too many of us for that to work out.
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Pretty bike! Must hurt to see it go.

I'm not that far away. If, by a miracle as I have spousal limitations too , I pull a winning bid could I drive a few hours north and save the shipping?

It'll go for more than I can afford, but we can dream...


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I saw one of those saddles in the junk box at the LBS. I knew I should have grabbed it, lol.,,,,BD

I can't even afford the starting bid. NICE ride!!
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Pretty bike! Must hurt to see it go.

I'm not that far away. If, by a miracle as I have spousal limitations too , I pull a winning bid could I drive a few hours north and save the shipping?

It'll go for more than I can afford, but we can dream...


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I regretted selling my first schwinn. And it was only a 1980 Schwinn Traveler with 1020 Hi-Ten steel. I ended up replacing it with a 86 Schwinn Passage touring bike.
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Very nice bike. I think you are going to regret selling it. How many bikes do you have. Maybe another one can go. The way it is set up it seems very rideable.
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Very nice bike. I think you are going to regret selling it. How many bikes do you have. Maybe another one can go. The way it is set up it seems very rideable.
Unfortunately too many. Just got a Giant TCR team Adavanced. That will be the race bike. Merlin Extralight is now the backup road bike. Griffen Vulcan is the TT bike. Paramount Track bike is for fixed gear training. Also have a MTB,and a tandem. As much as I wanted to justify keeping the Paramount OS, just couldn't make a convincing argument I'd actually use it. Better for some one to ride and enjoy it, than for it to hang in my garage.
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Unfortunately too many. Just got a Giant TCR team Adavanced. That will be the race bike. Merlin Extralight is now the backup road bike. Griffen Vulcan is the TT bike. Paramount Track bike is for fixed gear training. Also have a MTB,and a tandem. As much as I wanted to justify keeping the Paramount OS, just couldn't make a convincing argument I'd actually use it. Better for some one to ride and enjoy it, than for it to hang in my garage.
You fool.

Sell the tandem...with the wife on it.

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You all make me feel lucky. My wife never hassles me about buying bikes, as I DO use them to get exercise and it keeps me from much more expensive pursuits.

The clutter in the garage? That's another subject altogether.....
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You all make me feel lucky. My wife never hassles me about buying bikes, as I DO use them to get exercise and it keeps me from much more expensive pursuits.

The clutter in the garage? That's another subject altogether.....
...or bringing them home from the dump. Best of luck. Despite Kurt's suggestion to sell the tandem and wife, I hope the price goes through the roof, you receive a great return on what had to have been a significant investment, and that your wife loves you dearly for this sacrifice you are making.
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Mine is supportive too, partly because I love it, partly because it's down to me to make them fit the available space, and partly because I'm in profit on it!
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I'd sell the mountain bike. . .
my spousal unit keeps mentioning that bikes that come in never go out. .
kind of puts a damper on my plans to make millions flipping bikes.

MXL, if you are truely not riding it, it's not a bad thing to sell it. I did the same
with my trek 670. I just didn't ride it, the guy up in Norman Ok. (hey zach! ) does.

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I had a PM asking for the geometry of this bike, so I thought I'd share it here in case anyone else is interested. There were actually three Waterford Paramount road models in 1989: one with Columbus SLX tubing, one with Columbus SLX tubing and a shortened top tube, and this one with PDG OS tubing.

Attached is the geometry table for the PDG OS model (taken from the 1989 Schwinn catalog).
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Man thats a beautiful bike.If thats the 1 your willing to part with how nice are the ones your keeping? How many do you have room for?
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Did you have to cold set the frame for the nine speed freehub?

I recently bought an '89 Paramount(it's just the standard model with the Columbus tubing, not this one with OS tubes) and I am trying to figure out what to do with the 7 speed Shimano 600 hub and Uniglide cassette. The uniglide cassettes are now obsolete so for replacement I need to do something different. I guess my choices are either to cold set the frame to 130mm, or find a 7 speed Hyperglide hub body for the freehub. Just curious what you did with yours.
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Hmm. The last time my spouse complained about bikes I sold hers off.
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Did you have to cold set the frame for the nine speed freehub?

I recently bought an '89 Paramount(it's just the standard model with the Columbus tubing, not this one with OS tubes) and I am trying to figure out what to do with the 7 speed Shimano 600 hub and Uniglide cassette. The uniglide cassettes are now obsolete so for replacement I need to do something different. I guess my choices are either to cold set the frame to 130mm, or find a 7 speed Hyperglide hub body for the freehub. Just curious what you did with yours.

The 89 OS's were made with 128mm spacing because it was right at the transition from 126 to 130, so they split the difference. The bike was completely restored by Waterford in 1999, and it cam back with130 spacing.
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Did you have to cold set the frame for the nine speed freehub?

I recently bought an '89 Paramount(it's just the standard model with the Columbus tubing, not this one with OS tubes) and I am trying to figure out what to do with the 7 speed Shimano 600 hub and Uniglide cassette. The uniglide cassettes are now obsolete so for replacement I need to do something different. I guess my choices are either to cold set the frame to 130mm, or find a 7 speed Hyperglide hub body for the freehub. Just curious what you did with yours.
Eric,

Don't toss the uniglide cassette! At least send it to me! I run a 6 speed one on my Traveler and I'm always looking at the dump for extras. But if you just need cogs or spacers, Loose Screws carrys a great selection and they even have whole cassettes. They might even have uniglide freehub bodies.
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Don't toss the uniglide cassette! At least send it to me! I run a 6 speed one on my Traveler and I'm always looking at the dump for extras. But if you just need cogs or spacers, Loose Screws carrys a great selection and they even have whole cassettes. They might even have uniglide freehub bodies.
Bob,

Thanks for the info on Loose Screws. I'm going to see what my local bike shop can do for me first. I removed the Uniglide hub body from hub last night. I am going to see if the local boys have a 7 speed Hyperglide body to replace it with. Otherwise, I see Sheldon Brown/Harris Cyclery sells them. If I am successful with this I will send you both the cassette(13-23 7 speed) and the hub body.

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