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Old 12-11-06, 09:41 PM   #1
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'86 Pinarello Treviso - have a few questions

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Newbie here so don't flame me for my dumb questions. Recently bought an '86 Pinarello of the original owner and it is in excellent shape. All original campy Record components except for clincher rims (on the original campy hubs), what looks to be a newer selle saddle and the casette upgraded from 5 speeds to 7 speeds. He had it professionally repainted a few years ago from red to green. Feels brand new and looks almost new - i'm excited as a little kid who just unwrapped his dream gift. Lovely ride which was obviously owned by a careful owner. I'll try to post a link to some pics but don't know if it will work:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/jeroenpr...803931138413/1

It is my first older road bike, my other one being a 2003 specialized allez triple so i have a few questions:

Down tube friction shifters. This will take some getting used to and if i want to change to modern/ergo/flying cockpit type shifters built into the brake levers - what are my choices? Specifically, which campy components will i need. Hoping to get used to the shifters after a few rides because the current shifters are correct to the bike and i don't really want to change the look of the bike

It came with Look Pedals while my other bike uses speedplays. Don't have another set of shoes yet so tried to install my speedplays on the campy cranks and surprise - the cranks use a different thread type than my speedplay pedals. Was going to buy a set of shoes to use the Looks but it would just be easier (and not much more) to buy another set of speedplays. Is it possible to get pedals with different threads to fit the cranks or am i SOL on that and need to stick with Look?

It sure has tall gearing compared to my other bike. Maybe it just felt that was because of the 20mph wind i was trying to ride into while figuring out how to use friction shifters.

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Old 12-11-06, 10:01 PM   #2
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Congrads on the great bike. I cant help you on the shifter selection or with the pedals. I just bought a vintage Pinarello frame and will soon have all the same questions. Again, very nice bike.
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Old 12-11-06, 10:47 PM   #3
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Congrads on the great bike. I cant help you on the shifter selection or with the pedals. I just bought a vintage Pinarello frame and will soon have all the same questions. Again, very nice bike.
Thanks. I bought a Pinarello frameset, pinarello pantographed stem, 3TTT bars and campy seat post shortly before buying my green bike. Now i will take my sweet time building up the frame - might just hang it on the wall for a couple months to admire it.

Have fun with your build up. Going Campy or Shimano on it?

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Old 12-11-06, 11:24 PM   #4
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Hey there...

Your bike is more like an '80 Treviso upgraded to Nuovo record (they originally came with Nuovo Gran Sport) Is the seatpost diameter 27.2 or 27.0? If it's 27.0 then your bike is an 'Italia' and not 'Treviso'. Trevisos were nice frames made of Columbus SL but any Pinnarello is a fine, well-crafted bike. I'd say it's even more interesting being older.

Here's my chrome '84 Pinnarello Carrera:

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...31&uid=5603842
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Old 12-11-06, 11:26 PM   #5
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Down tube friction shifters. This will take some getting used to and if i want to change to modern/ergo/flying cockpit type shifters built into the brake levers - what are my choices? Specifically, which campy components will i need. Hoping to get used to the shifters after a few rides because the current shifters are correct to the bike and i don't really want to change the look of the bike
Good that is all you need to know, you have a modern bike to play with and now you have a vintage bike that is BEAUTIFUL, please don't detract from it's vintage quality by putting ergo shifters on it. WHich, BTW, will require you to buy the shifters a new rear wheel, a cassette, some downtuble cable stop adapters, cables and housing and a new rear derailleur (fairly expensive). I wouldn't do it unless you went all the way with a full new group or else it would look grotesque (sp?).

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It came with Look Pedals while my other bike uses speedplays. Don't have another set of shoes yet so tried to install my speedplays on the campy cranks and surprise - the cranks use a different thread type than my speedplay pedals. Was going to buy a set of shoes to use the Looks but it would just be easier (and not much more) to buy another set of speedplays. Is it possible to get pedals with different threads to fit the cranks or am i SOL on that and need to stick with Look?
Hmm unless your speedplays have some unusual threading they should work

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It sure has tall gearing compared to my other bike. Maybe it just felt that was because of the 20mph wind i was trying to ride into while figuring out how to use friction shifters.
Yes you probably have a 39 small ring on your specialised and maybe up to a 25 tooth cog in the back? or you might even have compact cranks with a 34 or 36 small ring? either way these old beauties only go as small as 42 (well there are 41s out there but they are hard to find or aftermarket) and your rear cluster probably only goes up to something like 23 so don't plan on doing any serious climbs with it unless you are a super fit cycling machine.
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M-theory:
Sweet bike you have there but hard to tell the color from the photos. Is it paint, polished or chrome? Based on the cataloge pictures on bulgier.net mine does look more like the '81 than an 86 based on the fork and clamp on front derailleur. I thought it was an 86 based on what the seller told me but to be fair - he bought it over 20 years ago. First time i've ever been pleased that i bought something older than i thought it was! According to my calipers the seat post is 27.2mm but not sure how accurate that is. The difference between 27.2 and 27.0 is small but i measured it a few times in different spots. So it probably is a Treviso then based on your comment. Either way, thanks for the info.

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Thanks for the info. I wasn't in any hurry to swap to ergo shifters but was curious what it would take to do the swap. Based on your info i'm in even less of a hurry to swap them out now.

If i counted teeth right the large chain ring is a 53, and the small is a 42. The rear cluster ranges from a 12 to a 19! The guy i bought it from in Jersey must be fit and he did warn me that it was geared 'a little' tall. Gives me something to strive for. On my specialized i usually spend the majority of my time in the big chain ring. The other day on the pinarello i could barely push the easiest gear the bike had although it was very windy (steady 20mph and gusting higher according to the airport). Good thing there aren't any real hills around here (in wichita, kansas

Both chain rings are quite worn. Can i still buy new ones from somewhere or are only old ones available? Rear cluster looks newer.

I'll check my speedplays again, maybe i was in too much of a hurry last time. The campy crank arms are engraved with 9/16 x 20F near the pedals. Don't modern bikes use all metric threads?

Thanks everyone. i was slacking off on my riding this year but now that i found this board i'm energized again (and have less money too).
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I'll check my speedplays again, maybe i was in too much of a hurry last time. The campy crank arms are engraved with 9/16 x 20F near the pedals. Don't modern bikes use all metric threads?

No, that is the standard threading of everything but the obsolete French threads (which WERE metric). Either the threads are buggered (check pedals AND cranks), you have swapped L with R pedals (remember L pedal is LH thread), or you are threading in too fast (slow down).
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Both chain rings are quite worn. Can i still buy new ones from somewhere or are only old ones available? Rear cluster looks newer.
The answer is maybe. You can definately buy new old stock chainrings and I am unsure who if anyone (though I suspect TA does) makes new replacement rings. You can find originals on ebay for sure. You can even buy a 41 tooth ring to replace the 42 but that really isn't going to make that much of a difference and probably won't be worth what you would have to pay. I would look for good used rings on ebay. Look for auctions for a right crank only type thing. For some reason people will pay more for a single ring rather than buy a crankset for the rings. I don't get it to be honest. I would sooner buy a complete crank set and then sell the cranks/bolts and dustcaps separately. Chances are you will make back most of your money. For example I recently purchase a set of 165mm strada cranks for my girlfriends GIOS complete with dustcaps, crank bolts and complete BB assembly for $86. Chances are if I put everything up separately in January I would easily make $200 but that wasn't my intention anyway. It's a game it can be fun to play but oh so addictive. Be careful!
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