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Old 12-21-06, 09:29 PM   #1
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Complete Mavic groupo. value?

My local bike shop just got an almost complete mavic group set. He says its like 10 years old or so. Personally I have never seen components by mavic before. How much do you think its all worth? If I were to make an offer for it all, what would be a good price?
What he has is...
Downtube shifters
Drop handlebars
Ft & rr derailers
Bottom bracket
Fr & rr hubs
Chainrings and crank
Seat post
Brakes and levers

I think that's it.
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Old 12-21-06, 10:50 PM   #2
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""what would be a good price?""

I'd buy the group quick if it can be had around $150. I don't know the different groups well...but I do know that mid-80's Mavic (SSC?) can be more valueable than Campagnolo Record. I've seen old Mavic rear derailleurs alone fetch $120. I'd research it if I were you.
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There were pedals and a stem also, and of course rims. If it is NOS, $4-500 would be a deal.

One of my big regrets is selling a complete SSC equipped ZINN. Stupid,stupid,stupid!

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Old 12-22-06, 01:08 AM   #4
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unfortunately no pedals or a stem as far as I remember, but there was a threaded headset, that I forgot to mention.
I will have to see if there are any markings as to what set they are.
So i should be checking to see if the set is SSC?
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Old 12-22-06, 08:49 AM   #5
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I concur with vjp. Mavic is very high quality. The hubs are some of the smoothest I have seen. They are also rare compared to Campy and Shimano. About the only bikes you saw them were the bikes of professional racers. $400 to $500 would be a good starting bid for them on ebay if they are NOS.
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I just bought a beat up Romic track bike for a beater and when I received the bike, I was surprised this beat up bike had a vintage complete Mavic group in perfect condition..threaded headset,165 cranks and ring, bb, front and rear hubs(with mavic ring) laced to vintage mavic rims with a beautiful cinelli old style(double creast) criterium bar and stem ....I was surprised as hell when I took the bike to my lbs..all the wrenches started to check it out and offered me $$$$ to buy the group....head guy said this was a rare,rare item.....I for sure know that the seller did not know what she was selling. It's funny because the rest of frame is in alright condition but all the components were perfect

So I can sell the group for more than I bought 2 bikes for, or just use them. I'm trying to figure out what to do...

just saw this on ebay, if it helps..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mavic-Track-Hubs...QQcmdZViewItem
eBay: Mavic Track Hubs NOS Pista Piste (item 170061427389 end time Dec-21-06 16:40:17 PST)
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Old 12-22-06, 11:07 AM   #7
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one more thing, I just stripped the frame and was polishing the cranks and hubs, as one of the above stated, it really is a nice looking and smooth running components, very high quality
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I did not get a chance to look the items over again, but I did call and asked the owner of the shop to tell me if there were any other names or marking on the various parts. what he told me was this...
Rear Derailer - # 840
Shift levers - # 821
Brakes - # 440
I did see the rear derailer on ebay for like $12 , So i'm thinking this might not be such an old/valuable group set.
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big boy if you think it is not so valuable I will give you $200 for the group set in a heart beat!!!
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Old 12-23-06, 12:19 AM   #10
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Thats the late 80's/early 90's Mavic stuff -- just prior to the introduction of Zap. Severly overbuilt stuff, but the derailleur is indexable with Shimano equipment, so thats a plus. The shifters are "indexed" in the sense they have notches cut in a disc...so its sort of ratchety. Not terribly impressive, but the lack of moving parts make them reliable.

The 440 brakes were the last ones made by Modolo for Mavic -- just prior to the 453's, which have the hidden springs. I much prefer the 440's. The 440 lever is one of the nicest looking levers out there -- white hood, and a solid, sweeping curve lever thats anodized black. Sharp.

The matching crank would be the 631, aka the starfish crank. 860 or 862 front derailleur. 501 for traditional freewheel hubs, and the 571, 571/2 or 571/2HG for cassette hubs. Seatpost, bars, stem, I don't remember the numbers for. For some reason they don't interest me as much as the drive train + brake equipment. Can't remember the number for the headset, either. Getting old.

The Mavic market is growing, and the later items in particular are beginning to sell for more + more in NOS condition. As others have said, $400 would be a deal. I wouldn't consider the $12, not yet completed auction as a bellwether for the market.
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. Seatpost, bars, stem, I don't remember the numbers for. For some reason they don't interest me as much as the drive train + brake equipment.
Those Mavic seatposts were really top quality pieces of kit, though a bit ugly in the black.
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Old 12-23-06, 09:30 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by big boy phil
My local bike shop just got an almost complete mavic group set. He says its like 10 years old or so. Personally I have never seen components by mavic before. How much do you think its all worth? If I were to make an offer for it all, what would be a good price?
What he has is...
Downtube shifters
Drop handlebars
Ft & rr derailers
Bottom bracket
Fr & rr hubs
Chainrings and crank
Seat post
Brakes and levers

I think that's it.
Are they new or used?
Also is the rear derailleur a straight or "slant" parallelogram?
A while back a new old stock Mavic long cage slant type rear derailleur (I wanna say an 851?) sold for over 200$ by itself.
If used, the "erector set" rear derailleur is often missing critical parts. These are sweet looking and rebuildable.
Anybody know where I can get some Mavic crankarm dustcaps?
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Old 05-31-11, 04:11 PM   #13
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I'm sure that, five years after the original post, you've probably already made a purchase decision. But FWIW, the original equipment sold for about $1,100 in 1991.
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My new-to-me Peugeot has full Mavic components. Smooth and with Spartan good looks! The RD lets you adjust the position of the pulleys to effectively go from short to long cage. It will eat-up a 30 tooth freewheel with a little room to spare. Awesome equipment.
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My guess is that parted out, it's worth 600-700 if in good shape. The cranks seem to average around 150 and up by themselves. I keep hoping I get a set at a price I can live with.
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The full group NIB went for $1100 last month on ebay.
Brakes, levers, shifters, DRs, bars, stem, hubs, BB, cranks, post, chain, no pedals.
All in a styrofoam packing insert.

Used bikes, however, with a full mavic kit are most commonly sold for under a grand, as low as 500 if clearly described.
Parting out will vary greatly with condition. A NOS post goes for $200 if its the right size.
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Predicting the price of anything is almost impossible. Predicting the total price of a bunch of stuff, is even more impossible.
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Mavic NOS component value have been fluctuating wildly in the last two years. Just take their 800 series derailleurs for example, From a high of $200+ about two years ago, to as low as $80ish bucks between now and then, and now sellers are trying to reset the values at around $150ish with not too much success so far as a lot of them have been languishing at eBay, in the last few months with mostly no takers. Bars and stems have been going through the same as one could get a nice model 350 "Gimondi" bend bar for below $50 just about a year ago, now they are priced at or even much higher than Cinelli equivalents amd has anyone noticed Mavic stems priced at over $200 recently?...but again no one is falling for their BIN higher prices....yet. I just wish the sellers get more realistic with pricing these soon or C&Vers just won't buy them and there will be less opportunities to do "tout Mavic" C&V build ups in the future.

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The market for mavic is so much more specific that I feel the price fluctuations are based upon the actual amount of people that want the part rather than an assesed value.
351 bars in 42cm went for $200 last month.
There is certainly no accurate way to judge but you can certainly say mavic will have a strong resale value if you can pick it up for a good price, but I probably wouldn't buy it just to sell for profit.
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I shared a stand at the Trexlertown swap meet with a seller who had a very nice Mavic bar and stem set that garnered almost no interest - and it was very fairly priced.
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