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Old 12-22-06, 03:14 PM   #1
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Why doesn't this $110 531 frame bike sell?

There is a Vintage C C M bike on ebay-the listing is "vintage C C M formula one bicycle" so you can find it easily.
I'm casually interested in it because it is roughly my size-21"-but if you want it,grab it.I really don't need more stuff.
Why isn't it sold.The guy wants just $65 +$45 for shipping. It is a 531 frame-maybe straigh gauge, but so what? It is a bit worn, but no dents, just scratches, a bit of rust.
The components aren't much, but it is a more or less complete Reynolds 531 bike??
What am I missing here??
If it was a 19"-my actual size,I would buy it.
Just curious.
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PS -I've never heard of C C M formula one, but I'm not really a vintage afficionado(and I probably just mis-spelled it).
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Old 12-22-06, 03:24 PM   #2
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Add the cost of new tires, seat, overhaul, etc. and it's more than someone wants to pay for that kind of bike. And what's up with that brake lever position?
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I bought a CCM at the goodwill awhile back for $25 I think, haven't worked on it yet, but it's kind of a cool bike. I would consider this one if I didn't have one and it was bigger.
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It's also a really crappy Ebay ad. The photos stink, there's no attempt to "sell" the bike. I love the way the brake levers are put on - classy.
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CCM, unfortunately, seems to be one of those marques that's constantly underrated and absolutely uninspiring to buyers - which is unfortunate as they were good bicycles. Back in the 70's I lived in Erie, PA - 90 miles down I-90 from Buffalo and Ft. Erie, Ont. Despite being that close, I think there were only 2-3 CCM being ridden in the area, sold by a hockey equipment dealer (CCM skates) who wanted to cover summers, too. He just couldn't get people interested, even late in the bike boom.
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Kinda a shame.

So it is just the wrong brand, with an uninspiring add. True, it need tires and a few other things, but folks who buy these old bikes usually have lots of old stuff-I do-and I don't buy old bikes.
His pictures aren't very good-that is for sure.
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I love auctions with terrible photos -blurry and dark but still good enough to make out condition.
I've won two or three of em and ended up with about 50% discount from what those items normally sold for. Perfect condition items.
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I would be all over a CCM Marauder.......
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I picked up one of these the other day for $30 and am slowly refurbishing it, where does this frame rank in the CCM lineup?
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what is the item number for that auction?
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I'm personally not of the "all Reynolds 531 bikes are worth owning just by virtue of the tubing they're made with" school of thought. A poorly-brazed, poorly designed, poorly finished and painted 531 frame may well be junk. And there are some out there. CCM's generally aren't junk, but there's nothing magical about Reynolds 531 tubing.
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If I could find the ad....

A good CV'r would have posted the link..
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If I could find the ad....

A good CV'r would have posted the link..
The problem is that the OP is from exactly one year ago .

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I'm personally not of the "all Reynolds 531 bikes are worth owning just by virtue of the tubing they're made with" school of thought. A poorly-brazed, poorly designed, poorly finished and painted 531 frame may well be junk. And there are some out there. CCM's generally aren't junk, but there's nothing magical about Reynolds 531 tubing.
I just meant, this bike is as light as the 500-700 dollar bikes I was looking at in the store... I'm just wondering if the Formula One is a decent CCM model, or if I should scrap the project and just save for a new bike?

So far, I bought the 3 bikes for $30, kept the CCM and stripped the others.

Stripped and repainted the CCM frame and fork, found a set of aluminum 700c rims on a bike in the neighbors trash.

Went ahead and bought some Tektero Aero levers and new 700c tires. Also just picked up a set of Crane Creek SR5 brakes for 50 off ebay.

Planning on using a few year old long cage Deora I have from a Schwinn MTB, then buying a new wheel set to support a 9 speed cassette. 1x9 isn't the ideal setup but I live in Ohio so it's pretty flat.
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The problem is that the OP is from exactly one year ago .

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There is a nice looking CCM "Seville" frameset from the late 70s on eBay right now, Item number: 150197243902 - Reserve is $100. Looks like Prugnat long point lugs, Campy style dropouts, black with chrome fork and stay ends in beautiful condition. Great looking Stronglight headset. 52 cm, so way too small for me. If it were my size, I'd certainly jump on it.

I know nothing of the Marque. Could some of these bikes have been French made? Don't know exactly why I ask... just something about the "look" of some I've seen.
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On one of my other forums theres a smiley banging his head against a brick wall..... (insert here)
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DANG your good! I went right along with it like a fish with a hook in my mouth, then I read your post and as usual you were right on.
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I've often thought that I should ask the management to give us some more smileys!

I like the brickwall smiley--it comes in handy in the genealogy forums .

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I've got a 1920s CCM track bike in my basement. I'll post pics if I can get around to it.

As to the ""value" of a vintage CCM, the company's image has been destroyed by decades of produxing mostly Dept store gaspipe krap. Apparently,CCMs made some hot racing ish back in the pre-war days. Then, for whatever reason (bike boom?) it all went pear shaped. CCM needs to get back to their roots.
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CCM, unfortunately, seems to be one of those marques that's constantly underrated and absolutely uninspiring to buyers - which is unfortunate as they were good bicycles. Back in the 70's I lived in Erie, PA - 90 miles down I-90 from Buffalo and Ft. Erie, Ont. Despite being that close, I think there were only 2-3 CCM being ridden in the area, sold by a hockey equipment dealer (CCM skates) who wanted to cover summers, too. He just couldn't get people interested, even late in the bike boom.
I agree with skyrocker. My impression of CCM bicycles are that they are heavy clunkers. I might be wrong, and I probably am, but I bet other potential buyers have the same image of CCM bicycles and that is why it won't move.
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This is great: CCM is/was sold in Canada through Canadian Tire (big hardware store). If they ever made decent bikes, I've never seen them. Strictly Wal-Mart-eque rides these days.
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There is a nice looking CCM "Seville" frameset from the late 70s on eBay right now, Item number: 150197243902 - Reserve is $100. Looks like Prugnat long point lugs, Campy style dropouts, black with chrome fork and stay ends in beautiful condition. Great looking Stronglight headset. 52 cm, so way too small for me. If it were my size, I'd certainly jump on it.

I know nothing of the Marque. Could some of these bikes have been French made? Don't know exactly why I ask... just something about the "look" of some I've seen.
This bike has freaky dimensions, just like I do.

It's really close to what I would get a custom frame made to. It would be a totally unacceptable fit for any of you, so don't bid on it!
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