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Old 01-12-07, 01:40 AM   #1
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Willing to help me evaluate a Miyata?

I'm interested in finding a nice vintage bike in good working order. It's important that the thing works well, because I'm just beginning to learn about bikes.

Found this:

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/bik/260875003.html

Plus an email that says this:

"I don't know the exact year , I am pretty sure it was made in the mid to
late 80's. The make is a Miyata model 512, which is a triple butted steel
frame. It has all shimano slr components, which are pretty much middle of
the road components. It is a 12 speed. I didn't like the color so I had it
professionally painted there was no rust on the bike at all. The bike was
kept in a closed garage for many years. I upgraded the bearings in the head
and bottom bracket just for self assurance not because it was needed. The
bike is in exellent condition and rides great. I am selling cause I have too
many bikes, I actually have the exact same bike with no modifications exept
for a shorter stem. And yes it has eyelets for racks, I actually took my
rack off of the rear of the bike. I never tried to install fenders, but it
looks like you can."

Does this seem like a good deal? Thanks.
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Old 01-12-07, 01:46 AM   #2
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If I were looking for a bike to ride, and that one fit me, rode nice, and was as described, I would have no problem paying $200.

Yes - IMO $175 is a good deal, but I'd offer $150......
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Upgrades, professionally tuned, painted and a computer. I would agree its a good deal, that is reasonably priced.
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Normally a repaint would lower the worth of a vintage bike, but that one looks so well done I would consider $150 - $175 a bargain. No rust on an island bike is a big bonus!

BTW What is the price of gas out there now? Back in the early '70s it was $2.25, 8-10 times what gas cost on the mainland states then, and what it costs here now.
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If the repaint is unquestionably a professional job, get it at $175 (but of course, offer $150, just in case). Looks like an excellent deal.

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As the happy owner of a 512, I say buy it! But as Kurt says, start at $150 (and I'd start at $125, myself )
I paid about half that for mine on the east coast, but I've put that much dough into it and it STILL needs to be re-painted.
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McDave - The price of gas is about $3.00 / gallon right now. It's been as low as 2.70 within the last year and as high as 3.75. There was a price cap until last year, which probably dates back to the time you're talking about. Luckily, I don't drive much, so it's not a big deal.

Thanks everyone for your input. I hope to go check out the bike tomorrow. Now I just have to convince my wife (which could be the deal breaker).

BTW, any tips on judging the fit of the bike? How do I know it fits?

Thannks for helping out the newbie!
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That Miyata should have the frame size stamped into the botton bracket just above the serial #.
A rough rule of thumb is: straddle the bike and see if you can lift it a bit (an inch or so) without hurting yourself. I like the feel of a bigger frame that I 'should' be riding, so if I can straddle the bike without sounding like the lead of a Handal opera I'm happy. YMMV.
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BTW, any tips on judging the fit of the bike? How do I know it fits?
Check out this website by BF member pinnah; it does a good job of briefly describing differing types of frame geometries and how to measure them. There's a link in those pages to an online fit guide that will give you results for three different types of frame geometries to fit your body.

Take a look, then bring a tape measure with you. That bike is a great price, especially if the paint job is professional and well done, as it looks to be. Good luck!
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That Miyata should have the frame size stamped into the botton bracket just above the serial #.
I'll bet it's a 58cm (23") bike.
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The owner says its "about" 56. I'm 5'11" (6 feet on a good day), but I realize geometry makes the difference.

Junkyard, thanks for that link. That will be helpful.

I'm still working on the wife front ("Yes, I do have a Trek hybrid. Yes, I only technically need one bike. Yes, the apartment is small. Yes, my commute is short." All valid points).
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McDave - The price of gas is about $3.00 / gallon right now. It's been as low as 2.70 within the last year and as high as 3.75. There was a price cap until last year, which probably dates back to the time you're talking about. Luckily, I don't drive much, so it's not a big deal.

Thanks everyone for your input. I hope to go check out the bike tomorrow. Now I just have to convince my wife (which could be the deal breaker).

BTW, any tips on judging the fit of the bike? How do I know it fits?

Thannks for helping out the newbie!
Maybe he'll take you wife in trade for the bike.
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McDave - The price of gas is about $3.00 / gallon right now.
Wow, and I was just complaining about $1.949/Gallon!
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Old 01-12-07, 03:27 PM   #14
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Maybe he'll take you wife in trade for the bike.
I'm into the bike, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make that trade

Instead, I'll just have to wear her down by begging.
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Show her a $1000 bike you've just got to have. Let her "talk you into" taking some time, watching sales and CL and waiting for a deal. Then buy the Miyata and 1) you'll have your bike, and 2) your wife will think you listen to her. Works every time.
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Show her a $1000 bike you've just got to have. Let her "talk you into" taking some time, watching sales and CL and waiting for a deal. Then buy the Miyata and 1) you'll have your bike, and 2) your wife will think you listen to her. Works every time.
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Genius indeed. A Bianchi Volpe is my dream bike, so maybe we'll go take a look at that tomorrow. "900 bucks, you've got to be kidding me!"
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Supercub,
If the bike doesn,t like you,you may wish to trade for one of my wind surf boards for your geographic location.
Is the rear gear cog a Shamino Ultra-6?
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That's a nice bike!
Sounds like it's been well treated.
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