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    Tubular Tires Recommendations

    I did a few searches and this topic is a little spread out. What tires would you recommend under the following criteria?

    Cheap - $20-$30
    Middle of the road - $40-$60
    Pricey - $80+

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    Not to be a smart ass but use clinchers. Roger

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    But that IS being a smart ass. The man's rebuilding a nice old cinelli, he wants to use tubulars. Help?

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    cheap $20 - $30
    clement futurox about $15 per
    Continental Giro
    Vittoria Rallye.

    Mid $40 - $60 (this is where it starts getting interesting)
    Continental Sprinter
    Gommitalia Espresso (excellent tire) **** Highly recommended!
    Deda Tre Olimpico (gum wall, good tire vintage friendly).
    vittoria corsa (if on sale)

    Pricey $80 +
    Veloflex Carbon
    Veloflex servizio Corse
    any Dugast tire (expect to start at $150 per).

    Hope that helps (there are more out there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotek
    cheap $20 - $30
    clement futurox about $15 per
    Continental Giro
    Vittoria Rallye.

    Mid $40 - $60 (this is where it starts getting interesting)
    Continental Sprinter
    Gommitalia Espresso (excellent tire) **** Highly recommended!
    Deda Tre Olimpico (gum wall, good tire vintage friendly).
    vittoria corsa (if on sale)

    Pricey $80 +
    Veloflex Carbon
    Veloflex servizio Corse
    any Dugast tire (expect to start at $150 per).

    Hope that helps (there are more out there).

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    Lotek wrote the list I would have written, with one exception: add Servizio Course ( from Yellow Jersey) to List A.

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    Where can I buy the Gommitalian espresso? I know Ital-techno sells the Gommitalia Champion and those would fall under cheep ($15 per)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhenning
    Not to be a smart ass but use clinchers. Roger
    Not to be a smart ass back, but why use clinchers?

    Everyone else, thanks for the recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotek

    Hope that helps

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    Very much so. Thank you.

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    I've had very inconsistent experiences with the Challenge brand. Probably because I got some really cheapos, but I think I've ordered my last of that brand.

    Marty - where are those Gommitalias? I've been looking too. Last time I asked my LBS, they weren't able to get them for me.
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    Lotek's list is spot on. I have wondered how good the Veiterstein Fortezza tubulars are as they are a mid-priced tire.
    I would advise you to stay away from the cheap or low end tubular tires as you get all the hassles of sew-ups with none of the benefits. Just my $0.02, not trying to start a flame war. Gerry
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro
    Marty - where are those Gommitalias? I've been looking too. Last time I asked my LBS, they weren't able to get them for me.
    How about bikesomewhere.com? $75 though.

    http://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesom.../342/2788/9729

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    Just ordered a pair of Continental Sprinter Gatorskins. I hear they're nice.
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    Jitensha studio sells the Dugast 27c for $125.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotek
    cheap $20 - $30
    clement futurox about $15 per
    Continental Giro
    Vittoria Rallye.

    Mid $40 - $60 (this is where it starts getting interesting)
    Continental Sprinter
    Gommitalia Espresso (excellent tire) **** Highly recommended!
    Deda Tre Olimpico (gum wall, good tire vintage friendly).
    vittoria corsa (if on sale)
    Edit by littleginseng: Continental Competition@$64.95ea.
    Pricey $80 +
    Veloflex Carbon
    Veloflex servizio Corse
    any Dugast tire (expect to start at $150 per).

    Hope that helps (there are more out there).

    Marty

    I've never used Conti Sprinters. Is there much of a difference in ride quality compared to the Competitions? I have a set of Comps on my Maruishi and they're tough as nails with a nice ride quality.

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    If you want great tires, CritUSA has Veloflex Criteriums for $66. These are the closest thing to old Vittoria CX or GC. They look right on an old bike as well.

    Servizio Corse from Yellow Jersey are the best budget tubs out there, 3 for $50. And they come in gum-wall too.

    IMO, Conti Sprinters are a weak choice. Puncture easily and very hard to repair.

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    Clinchers (modern) do not have the snob appeal but give more bang for your buck. Easily repairable and unless you are being a snob almost the same ride. Roger

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    Ital Techno has had the espresso's before and at a good price ( $50 each?)
    I've personally had no problems with the conti Sprinters in terms of reliablitity
    puncture resistance etc. They are very much like the Competition but a bit wider
    (21.5 or 22 mm?)
    rhenning the OP asked about tubulars not clinchers, and given that I've only had
    to replace one tubular in the past 4 years (cut sidewall) I do think I'm getting alot
    of bang for the buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhenning
    Clinchers (modern) do not have the snob appeal but give more bang for your buck. Easily repairable and unless you are being a snob almost the same ride. Roger
    Being a snob has nothing to do with it, and claiming something has "snob appeal" says absolutley nothing. Even less than "almost the same".

    When I ride a 60's or 70's race bike I want it to ride like a 60's or 70's race bike. This means riding on good tubulars. When I want modern convenience I ride a modern bike with good clinchers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine
    Where can I buy the Gommitalian espresso? I know Ital-techno sells the Gommitalia Champion and those would fall under cheep ($15 per)
    The Gommi Champions seem like a nice tire. Should also be added o Lotek's cheap list.

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    After several re-mounts chasing installation-based pinch flats, I do not think clinchers are NECESSARILY easier to repair. If all goes well, yes, they are easier. But I have never had to re-repair a tubular once it's sewn back up. Takes longer, but better suited to my skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhenning
    Clinchers (modern) do not have the snob appeal but give more bang for your buck. Easily repairable and unless you are being a snob almost the same ride. Roger
    There are other reasons for tubulars. The main one is historical accuracy. I run a lot of bikes, and the only one that has tubulars, it's because it came like that. It's a track bike, on Campy Pista hubs, and frankly, the cost of getting an appropriate clincher wheelset would be about the same as buying the bike. However, if I was building a bike that was really period appropriate, on something like the Cinelli frame that IAB is using, on something like the Gran Sport hubs he has, I'd want to get it right. Anything other would seem heretical. So, tubulars.

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    I've ridden the Gommitalia Champions. They are cheap and maybe they get better with age. I removed them after only a few rides and went with the Vittoria EVO-CX (eBay new for $40 ea) for my '74 Gitane TdF. Love 'em, very low rolling resistance. I ride Hutchison Reflexes on my '84 Trek - a reasonably priced tire with reasonable performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhenning
    Clinchers (modern) do not have the snob appeal but give more bang for your buck. Easily repairable and unless you are being a snob almost the same ride. Roger

    Why am I a snob? Admittedly, my experince with tubular tires is minimal, I have only mounted two. For all the blather I have read, it was not difficult to do so. I ride Conti GP4000s on my modern bike. They are harder to take off and mount onto my rims than my little experience with tubulars.

    For fixing a flat, on the road, I replace the tube, I don't patch until I get home. It take more time to resew a tubular, but it it certainly isn't more difficult than a clincher.

    As for the money, clincher tires are less expensive but period correct tubular rims are very cheap and plentiful when compared to period correct clincher rims. So bang for your buck is pretty much a wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iab
    I did a few searches and this topic is a little spread out. What tires would you recommend under the following criteria?

    Cheap - $20-$30
    Middle of the road - $40-$60
    Pricey - $80+
    Here's a pricey but interesting addition: http://www.coloradocyclist.com/commo...321&TextMode=0

    Grand Prix 4000 tubulars!
    I love it.

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