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Old 03-06-07, 02:22 PM   #1
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how to date my new GAZELLE frame ?

just got a GAZELLE champion mondial frame
- 531 butted sticker (not double)
- campy 1010 dropouts
- no braze-on's, AT ALL (except for bottle cage)
- rear and front forks with chrome half-way
- S/N 2423143
how can i date its circa ?
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Old 03-06-07, 03:43 PM   #2
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Pics PLEASE! sounds like an oldy, sounds like the drool factor is very high.
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s70rguy posted a S/N reference a while back. The frame does sound like an older model than my early 80's Champion Mondial.
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Old 03-07-07, 12:40 AM   #4
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Pics please, I'm getting very interested...
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pics.

here are some pic's
any idea on circa ?

it came whit campy head set, seat post, suntour BB, cinelly stem and HB, front campy hub'd weel.
all for 70$
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wow, pretty sweet! I would have to guess early 70s beased on the complete lack of braze ons, could be late 60s even, but I am not familiar with Gazelle, this is just generalisation for most bike companies.
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+1, looks like early '70s...nice score!
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Certainly earlier than mine and Cuda's bikes, which have shifter braze-ons, although the adjustment screws in the dropouts suggest to me that it's not as early as 60's.
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+3 on age (definitely looks like an earlier fork e.g.). Interesting thing the absence of braze-ons, it's got fender eyelets though, so more of a touring version? Nice find + should like all Gazelles provide a fantastic ride.
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just got a GAZELLE champion mondial frame
- 531 butted sticker (not double)
- campy 1010 dropouts
- no braze-on's, AT ALL (except for bottle cage)
- rear and front forks with chrome half-way
- S/N 2423143
how can i date its circa ?
Beckman, the oldest Champion Mondial i've seen so far is the one Rini Wagtmans used in the TdF of 71 (see the thread of some months ago). It has frame number 2852788. Yours has a number that's quite a bit lower, so how much older is it? I'm pretty sure Gazelle introduced the Champion Mondial model name in 1970, after Harm Ottenbros became pro world champion in 1969, riding for the Willem II-Gazelle team. So your frame could or should be a 1970 build.

More remarks: it doesn't have the typical 'Gazelle butterfly' brake bridge, it has a very 60s fork crown, not used by Gazelle in later frames and it's kind of puzzling it doesn't have 531 DB tubing.

So it looks older than 1970!
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Those lugs look different too from those on later frames.
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werethere champion mondial before 1970
dose anyone have an idea how can i trace the circa ?

since it is a very smooth frame, i thinkit will be setup as a singlespeed
it will take too long to make it time corect (and way too much $)

thanks for the info. so far
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Gazelle knows all about your gazelle

Did you know that if you want to date your Gazelle you can simply send them an email with serial number and they will try to find the production date for you. The website is in Dutch but most Dutch people speak English quite well. I think it's worth a try.

http://www.gazelle.nl/nl/contact.php?idParent=11

starred (*) fields mean subject, surname, email address and question/remark respectively.
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1969
frame numbers from 2335001 - 2463000 = year 1969
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There's a Dutch thread on BF you know...

Looks 60's to me, with that old fork crown, no butterfly brake bridge (yet) and the frame number It's beautiful!

Your frame was probably made by Locomotief, which formed the road bike department of Gazelle in the 60's IIRC

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This is probably the same source as what zipieri00 posted earlier. Lots of interesting Gazelle info to be found here:

http://jvs.webklik.nl/page/bouwjaren
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This is probably the same source as what zipieri00 posted earlier. Lots of interesting Gazelle info to be found here:

http://jvs.webklik.nl/page/bouwjaren
Yes jonsan, this is my source. I have a Gazelle of 1979 (AB frame n. 3238577)
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