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I picked up a vintage bike from a shop this week: Novara Strada, steel frame, downtube indexed / friction shifters, double chainring bike. I think it's 80s era, looks like it was an entry-level road bike, e.g. there are no braze-ons for racks on the seatstays. It rides very well, so I'm guessing it sat in someone's basement for a few years. My main purpose for this bike is for long distance rides (i.e. centuries, ultras), so I think the steel will work out very well.
I noticed that the gearing is kind of high: 52 -42T "Biopace" chainrings, looks like a 12-28 in the back. By my calculations, that's a gear inch range of 40" - 112". I usually run closer to 30" on the low end, but that's with a hybrid bike with very wide tires. So far I don't mind the Biopace, although obviously I haven't put many miles on it.
Also, the tires are mixed -- 700c 25 in front, 700c 28 in back.
So, here we go with the questions....
1) What are my options for lowering the gearing, if it turns out that is necessary?
2) Would replacing the Biopace chainrings require swapping out the cranks as well?
3) Is mixing the tires per this setup a good plan, bad plan, not important?
4) Will going up hills with a 40" low gear make me, like, macho?
Thanks....
B
I noticed that the gearing is kind of high: 52 -42T "Biopace" chainrings, looks like a 12-28 in the back. By my calculations, that's a gear inch range of 40" - 112". I usually run closer to 30" on the low end, but that's with a hybrid bike with very wide tires. So far I don't mind the Biopace, although obviously I haven't put many miles on it.
Also, the tires are mixed -- 700c 25 in front, 700c 28 in back.
So, here we go with the questions....
1) What are my options for lowering the gearing, if it turns out that is necessary?
2) Would replacing the Biopace chainrings require swapping out the cranks as well?
3) Is mixing the tires per this setup a good plan, bad plan, not important?
4) Will going up hills with a 40" low gear make me, like, macho?
Thanks....
B
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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
1) What are my options for lowering the gearing, if it turns out that is necessary?
Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
2) Would replacing the Biopace chainrings require swapping out the cranks as well?
Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
3) Is mixing the tires per this setup a good plan, bad plan, not important?
Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
4) Will going up hills with a 40" low gear make me, like, macho?
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Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
1) What are my options for lowering the gearing, if it turns out that is necessary?
2) Would replacing the Biopace chainrings require swapping out the cranks as well?
3) Is mixing the tires per this setup a good plan, bad plan, not important?
4) Will going up hills with a 40" low gear make me, like, macho?
Thanks....
B
2) Would replacing the Biopace chainrings require swapping out the cranks as well?
3) Is mixing the tires per this setup a good plan, bad plan, not important?
4) Will going up hills with a 40" low gear make me, like, macho?
Thanks....
B
2) Probably not. You don't mention what crankset it has, but if it has Biopace, it is probably a Shimano with one of their vintage standard BCDs - 110mm for mountain cranks or 130 for road. Lots of round rings available in those sizes. 110 has since become the "standard" for "compact" road setups, which gives new life to the older Shimano MTB cranks.
3) Mixing tires with slight size differences like that is no big deal. When people do it, they almost instinctively put the smaller tire on the rear, like on muscle cars. Many bike gurus, however, recommend putting the larger one on the front. What you're running is an insignificant difference, anyway. Some manufacturers "25" is larger than some others "28."
4) I have a couple of roadie buddies who would tell you without hesitation that 42x28 is already way into wimp territory. They would rather go through rounds of knee surgery than have anyone spot a 23 cog in their rear clusters.
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Sweet I didn't think the tire setup would be an issue, and it rides pretty well anyway. I assume speed-wise the difference between 28 and even 23 are not noticeable to a non-racer.
FWIW, I like to spin rapidly on hills. I'm not worried about looking like a wuss by some random cycler who's staring at my gears, I'd rather just make it up the hills.
- I'm pretty sure the cranks are 130mm. How do I verify, just by measuring?
- Any issues mixing a Biopace big ring with a round regular ring? Or should I just swap both at once.
- I can't tell if it's a freewheel or cassette.
- What's the max jump on the front -- 14 teeth, correct? I.e. if I tried to go for a 50/32 compact, I'd need to swap out to a 110 crank.
FWIW, I like to spin rapidly on hills. I'm not worried about looking like a wuss by some random cycler who's staring at my gears, I'd rather just make it up the hills.
- I'm pretty sure the cranks are 130mm. How do I verify, just by measuring?
- Any issues mixing a Biopace big ring with a round regular ring? Or should I just swap both at once.
- I can't tell if it's a freewheel or cassette.
- What's the max jump on the front -- 14 teeth, correct? I.e. if I tried to go for a 50/32 compact, I'd need to swap out to a 110 crank.