I took the frame over to the LBS to have it inspected and they found that the frame was crashed at some point in time =( nice size impact dent in the top of the head tube, just where the top tube meets the headtube, micro cracks found in the paint in the same area =( thats the bad news, good news is everything on the bike is for trade! LOL! I need a group for my Kinesis frame, something really, please let me know if anyone can help =) all the parts you see in the pics will be included in the trade, except the rear derailler, frame and fork, best offer takes all! So please make it a decent offer! LOL!