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Old 05-07-07, 10:16 PM   #1
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Coaster Hubs- any modern production ones you like?

Some of you may have seen my last post about coaster hub woes, which led to this post.

Has anyone had any experience with modern production SS coaster hubs that you like. I've looked into the shimano ones and a couple of others. None of them top more than $20 in price, which usually is a good thing, but in this case I am worried about getting what you pay for.

My other option is to rebuild a vintage Bendix 70. I came across a rebuild kit that had basically everything but the shell and trim kit. I have a shell, which I could get re-chromed for sub $20. However, I would hope that there is some new option that works "like they used to"
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The ubiquitous Shimano is pretty good. A couple years back, there was some interest in the Velosteel coaster brake hub, generally considered a copy of the old classic Sachs hub. After scoring one and admiring the workmanship and lacing it up, I had to conclude that it didn't perform all that well. After greasing (badly needed even though straight from the factory), it just didn't brake as well as the common old Shimano.

Bendix 70 is pretty similar to the Shimano design, and should work fine, too.

No experience with the new SA CB hub. I'd be surprised if it were all that different in design. ETA: I just took a look at the SA hub here, and have to say that externally, it pretty much looks like a Shimano. Then again, so does just about every single speed coaster brake hub. No telling what the innards are like or if SA actually manufactures it or contracts the hub out to a different company.

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Some of you may have seen my last post about coaster hub woes, which led to this post.

Has anyone had any experience with modern production SS coaster hubs that you like. I've looked into the shimano ones and a couple of others. None of them top more than $20 in price, which usually is a good thing, but in this case I am worried about getting what you pay for.

My other option is to rebuild a vintage Bendix 70. I came across a rebuild kit that had basically everything but the shell and trim kit. I have a shell, which I could get re-chromed for sub $20. However, I would hope that there is some new option that works "like they used to"

I'm trying to get Velosteel to sell me some.

I'll know soon if it works out.
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I have CB coasters on 3 commuter/ chopper bikes and they
all work fine. I think the secret to setting them up is how
many turns you wind the brake arm in before you mount on
the bike. Out will make it loose and take a lot of pressure, too
far in will make it grabby.

Im looking for an 18 toofer(CB 110) Ill trade for a 20 or buy
from you if anyone has one

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in this case i think older is better..

i'd expect an old mattatuck or new departure american boat anchor type coaster brake to be pretty solid and have better forgings/hardening when compared with a modern production made in asia hub

see also: sachs

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What's weird is that I did a little more research last night and found this:

http://www.bikepartsusa.com/view.asp...imageField.y=0

The parts are exactly the same as my SA hub. Then this:

http://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_...2&p=01%2D78593

Same as well. Which leads to the obivious conclusion that SA, KT and Shimano are all the same hubs, just badged differently. Actually the SA one just has a decal on the barrel, so it was re-badged on the cheap!

Gonna try the wind up trick with the arm. I'll get back to you, but I'm leaning more and more towards the bendix. The "innards" just look a bit more thought out. Now I just need to find an inexpensive plater.
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Search for a recent thread in SS/FG. There was post by a coaster hub guru full of good info.
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I think it's this one:

Coaster Brake (jimv!!)
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Same as well. Which leads to the obivious conclusion that SA, KT and Shimano are all the same hubs, just badged differently.
You're thinking like a G7'er; SE Asia manufacture is a new paradigm. The hubs could in fact be the same as you say. And it could be three different Chinese factories independently building the same design, out of independently chosen alloys on different fabrication machines to whatever tolerances they can independently hold. Could be one Chinese factory building the same design to three different OEM spec's (forged steel vs. stamped iron, surface finish and treatment, etc.) Could be SA, KT and Shimano all signed off on proprietary first articles, and subsequent shipments from the Chinese factory have become a generic mimic.

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^ the only other thing that led me to this conclusion is that KT has a history of rebranding their hubs (suntour and shimano, etc), so it wouldn't be much of a leap to add one more brand to the roster.
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