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05-10-07, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by USAZorro

Serotta. Looks like your seat tube needs to be .2 or .4 mm larger.

Amen! I was checking out the pic before I uploaded and thought the same thing. I believe it to be a 27.2, I'll have to check.

05-10-07, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckk

Lots of definitions of 555 - RSL SL T double butted and not. I'd swear my Team USA is SL db or SLT rather than T like the brochure says. (but it's too far in the back of the pile to check now)

There's no such thing as 555SLT. There is SL, RSL, T, but not a mix other then those.

These are the following, official Raleigh USA tubing designations:

555RSL Maganese Molyebdenum
555SL Butted and Double Butted Cro-Mo
555T Triple (or was it double? Have to re-check my Raleigh Alyeska) Butted Cro-Mo
575SL Triple-Butted Cro-Mo
502 (High-tensile, if I recall right)
410 (Also high-ten)

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Originally Posted by Chuckk

I'd heard that the Prestige was 531, but the only example of a Prestige that I've seen was 555, that it was only '86 for 531 explains why. Before that what made sense is that the "Prestige" was maybe an oblique reference to the make and model of the tube (as well as a cool name).

The 1983 Prestige was a Nottingham-made, 531-tubed machine available only as a frameset. Came in bright red or blue metallic. In 1984, it became a black and chrome, Superbe Pro-equipped version of the Japanese-made, 555SL Raleigh USA Competition model, and remained so until 1985. In 1986, it became a near twin of the Team Pro, differing only by a maroon/red paint job as opposed to the traditional black/red, and with yellow-to-white fade downtube decals. This final incarnation, being a Nottingham product, was built with 531C.

Not sure if you can see it well in this photo, but the Raleigh sitting in the background of this Ciocc is an '86 Prestige, owned by BF member garth. Although this isn't too good a photo, you can see that it is essentially identical to a Team Pro.

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Better photo of the 1986 Prestige:

-Kurt

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05-11-07, 04:51 AM

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The real question is, what tubing is 555SL? Or for that matter, 555T (used on some of the touring machines)? And what was their "triple-butted" 575SL? Wasn't Miyata the only company to make triple-butted tubing?

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During this era, triple butted tubing was made by Ishiwata and Tange, in addition to Miyata.

So the bottom line of all this discussion is that 555RSL is a Reynolds tubeset, with the R being the Reynolds indicator? If the R isn't there on a 555 tubeset, then it's assumed to be non-Reynolds and probably a Japanese tubeset?