Where do I find 28 x 1 3/8 rims
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Where do I find 28 x 1 3/8 rims
I have a c1930s fixed gear racing bike that I want to restore and ride. It is fitted with chrome 28x 1 3/8 Westwood pattern rims. The front rim is still mostly sound but the chrome is peeling. The rear wheel is badly out of true but the rear rim has cracks/splits around at least 3 spoke holes and can't be fixed. Does anyone know of a source for 40 hole 28x 1/38 rims, preferably Westwood pattern?
Here is a picture of the bike before I put some 1980s quill type pedals and toe clips on to make it easier to ride.
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Here is a picture of the bike before I put some 1980s quill type pedals and toe clips on to make it easier to ride.
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A 28 " rim is also known as a 700B, according to Sheldon. 635mm rim bead seat and it looks like Harris also carries tires for it in 1 1/2 inch width. They might even have some rims to rebuild the wheels! Who knows!
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/635.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tires/635.html
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05-24-07, 06:06 AM
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Indian bikes are still made in 28" and I know 28" rims are available here in Oz.
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Thanks for the help, but...
Thanks for the information. The common old roadster wheel that is readily available is 28 x 1 1/2 but I am looking for the much rarer 28x 1 3/8 wheel which is narrower. There wouldn't be clearance to run the 28x 1 1/2 tyres. I have found the 28 x 1 3/8 tyres I need in my LBS.
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Well, both 635 and and 642 are available (with some looking). In Oz, 642 is more common.
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I have two sets of tires 28x1 1/8 if anyone needs a set. Reasonably priced.
05-24-07, 08:03 PM
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I know the shop has at least one 28 inch wheel.
Not sure if it's the same size, and it might be aluminum, if it's aluminum would you still be interested?
Not sure if it's the same size, and it might be aluminum, if it's aluminum would you still be interested?
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Originally Posted by LWaB
Well, both 635 and and 642 are available (with some looking). In Oz, 642 is more common.
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Originally Posted by mastershake916
I know the shop has at least one 28 inch wheel.
Not sure if it's the same size, and it might be aluminum, if it's aluminum would you still be interested?
Not sure if it's the same size, and it might be aluminum, if it's aluminum would you still be interested?
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Be careful about the tyres you buy. I am having a similar problem with my speedwell. The old tyres say "28 x 1 3/8" on the sidewall. So, I got a shop to hunt some of this size down for me. 3 weeks later they arrived, and they are about 1 inch in diameter too small.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
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Okay, that's off the top of my head. Has anyone tried that, or other extreme measures?
05-13-08, 06:56 AM
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I'll see what is out there in 40 hole. Most Westwood rims I see nowadays are 36 hole.
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Anybody notice that the original thread is a year old? Someone needs to wake up the OP.
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Be careful about the tyres you buy. I am having a similar problem with my speedwell. The old tyres say "28 x 1 3/8" on the sidewall. So, I got a shop to hunt some of this size down for me. 3 weeks later they arrived, and they are about 1 inch in diameter too small.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
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05-13-08, 11:28 AM
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FWIW - I have seen older french bikes (as late as the late '60's) with 700c rims cross-referenced as 28 x 1-3/8. I have some and I can check, but uit would be nice if someone here could verify that. I know the 28 x 1 1/2 tires are larger (635mm I think) whihc I have seen on some older (now very old) british bikes.
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Be careful about the tyres you buy. I am having a similar problem with my speedwell. The old tyres say "28 x 1 3/8" on the sidewall. So, I got a shop to hunt some of this size down for me. 3 weeks later they arrived, and they are about 1 inch in diameter too small.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
This is the 3rd time it has happened to me now, I'm at my wit's end. I think I'm just going to palm this bike off to a museum and drive away very, very quickly.
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Judging by the replies so far, you're going to have a heck of a time finding a replacement rim, and even if you find a rim that fits, it will be so different from the original that you will end up keeping the original rim as a museum piece. So... I wonder... what can be done to repair the original rim? Perhaps there's a way to re-enforce it from the inside with some appropriately shaped steel, and drill new spoke holes in line with the original ones? Bend the rim by hand until it's as close to round and true as possible, then build it up, and true it very carefully....
Okay, that's off the top of my head. Has anyone tried that, or other extreme measures?
Okay, that's off the top of my head. Has anyone tried that, or other extreme measures?
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Are you sure that the Westwood wheels are original and/or correct? The reason I ask is that you bike appears to be fitted with a caliper brake, Westwood rims are for rod brakes, maybe 27" wheels would be more in keeping.
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The wheels are (more likely) correct but the brake isn't. The rear wheel still has it's snail cams on the hub for adjusting the chain tension. The bike has been drilled for a rear brake but the front fork isn't. I think that the brake lever may be for a roadster not drop bars but was on there. I put the brake on the bike so that I could test ride it without worrying about stopping if a car pulled out in front of me - this was the first fixed gear bike I'd ever ridden.
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Need 28 x 1-3/8 (or 37-642) rims, too!
I know it's a ridiculously long time after this thread was active to be joining it, but I am asking the identical question today. If someone is still following this, maybe advice can be given or these suggestions updated.
To rebuild a vintage bike, I'm looking for a wheel or rim set of size (by ISO/ETRTO designation) 37-642 (mm). This is sometimes expressed (in the format used by, for example, brand HJC) as 642 x 37.
It's also called (by Imperial designation) 28 x 1-3/8 (inches).
It's also known (by obsolete French designation) as 700A or 700 x 35A.
The overall diameter of the rim would be about 656 mm.
For a 28-inch wheel, this size differs from the common 28 x 1-1/2 (or 40-635) of vintage British roadsters. It was common on early French bicycles. I gather it was common for quite some time in Australia, which explains why that country seems the only source for the corresponding tire.
Perhaps someone has a wheel or rim set from one of these vintage bikes. I would consider having such custom-made. I'd be happy to receive advice or recommendations. Thanks!
To rebuild a vintage bike, I'm looking for a wheel or rim set of size (by ISO/ETRTO designation) 37-642 (mm). This is sometimes expressed (in the format used by, for example, brand HJC) as 642 x 37.
It's also called (by Imperial designation) 28 x 1-3/8 (inches).
It's also known (by obsolete French designation) as 700A or 700 x 35A.
The overall diameter of the rim would be about 656 mm.
For a 28-inch wheel, this size differs from the common 28 x 1-1/2 (or 40-635) of vintage British roadsters. It was common on early French bicycles. I gather it was common for quite some time in Australia, which explains why that country seems the only source for the corresponding tire.
Perhaps someone has a wheel or rim set from one of these vintage bikes. I would consider having such custom-made. I'd be happy to receive advice or recommendations. Thanks!
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Close but no cigar. I have a pair of EA2/28 X 1 1/4/ 647mm beads which were also found on 30's fixed gear bikes, mostly Canadian bikes like CCM and Planets. I thought for sure this was what you are after until I looked at the rim chart. Yours would be the EA4 British designation.
Custom rims! That would cost a bomb! Maybe if it was for Major Taylor's Massey Harris track bike that he raced in Australia.
Custom rims! That would cost a bomb! Maybe if it was for Major Taylor's Massey Harris track bike that he raced in Australia.