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Old 06-20-03, 02:15 PM   #1
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Raleigh Super Course..... age unknown t this time!

A local buisness owner gave me this bike because I did not charge his wife for some minor adjustments .
It does not have the original front der. but from what I can gather most of everything else is. I did have to replace the bar wrap, cables, housing, tires, saddle and tubes.
From my research it would appear to be 1964 maybe. This was a ten speed originally I respaced the rear axle to get a 7 spped freewheel on it, so I could ride it around town when I am at the shop. I still have the original 5 speed freewheel.
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Old 06-20-03, 03:21 PM   #2
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Sweet looking old ride!! Bet she will serve you well for many miles...enjoy.
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27 " wheels ?
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Nope 700c.
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Nope 700c.
Nice bike , the 700c,s should help date it ? I think when they went from 27" to 700 ,they used a lot of their 27' frames with 700 wheels ?
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I used the components on it at first to aid in dating. Given the rear der. is Suntour Honor sealed hubs, Araya rims, Raleigh bar, and stem I surmized it was at least 30 years old. However the Honor stuff was made in 64 but the Suntour BL front der was used in the mid seventies so it may have been a replacement.
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I bought a new bike with a Suntour Honor derailler in 1971 or 72, and another new bike with a Sugino crank like the one in the picture in 1976.
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I poked around the RetroRaleighs site, http://www.retroraleighs.com/supercourse.html, and didn't see anything with your mix of components. I don't know if you're familiar with that site but it's a good one for Raleighs.

Anyways, they've got Huret changers for models in the 60s thru the mid70s and then ST Cyclone. My guess is your bike has had component swaps durring its life or the site may well be incomplete, I'm not an expert.

Very nice bike though.
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Hunter,

If you SR (or Sakae) seat post there is a date stamp on
it, should be someting like c-72 for Mar. 1972.
Some reports of dating code similiar to 76.9 for sept 1976.

If you have Dia Compe brakes (or weinemman)
Calipers have date stamp on back, is a number in a clock face.
inside number is year.
Levers have date stamp inside top of lever. should be a
4 digit code i.e. 7204 april 1974.

Were Suntour derailleurs available in the mid 60's? I thought
they were an late 60's, early 70's innovation.

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Wow, I went through all this last year when a brother of a friend gave his old green Super Course to us. The Retro Raleigh site was no help, and its creator seems to be no longer with us, did not answer mail sent to any of his addresses. I even sent an inquiry to Raleigh in Nottingham, no reply. It was about that time they announced they were shutting down.

I finally found the SN on the chain stay, not where people said it would be. What do I look for to date the manufacture? The guy who owned it said early 70s but our friend swears it's 1960s.
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Thanks lotek!
Yes Suntour der's were available in the 60's.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/page35.htm
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So Hunter, you any closer to dating this bike?
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Old 06-27-03, 08:26 PM   #13
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Well I did not have a chance to look at it today. Just too busy, when I do though I will update. Thanks for your help!
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Lotek,
The brakes have a 81 date stamp on them. As do the shift levers. however this would definately not be correct for the age of this bike. The serial number does not match up on any of the Vintage Raleigh charts. Also it appears that the wheels are also not original. It looks as if the frame, fork, headset, bar, crank, and stem are all that is left from its original build.
More oddities, the frame has a 531 BUTTED sticker on it not plain guage. However the shifters are braze on not bar end. The crank is Raleigh SR as are the bar and stem. It also apperas that the frame was brazed with Nervex lugs. The solder joints are gold. So I am thinking the original component spec may have been Suntour Cyclone, der's, Weinneman center pull brakes,(which I have a set of) and rims, with Raleigh SR everything else. I may just locate some of the original Cyclone der's and bolt those on.
By the way I just procured a vintage Trek 420 series lugged True Temper Cro Mo frame all Suntour Cyclone with a Superbe Pro crank. Total rebuild cost on these two bikes will be about $100. Pics soon!
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I used the components on it at first to aid in dating. Given the rear der. is Suntour Honor sealed hubs, Araya rims, Raleigh bar, and stem I surmized it was at least 30 years old. However the Honor stuff was made in 64 but the Suntour BL front der was used in the mid seventies so it may have been a replacement.
I have a Suntour honor rear mech from 1981.
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the Raleigh "531 Butter" Stucker puts that bike square in the early 80's. They had a run of Reynolds look-alike stickers about that time.

Does it have "Raleigh" pantographed on the seatstays at the seat tube cluster by any chance?
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Old 09-05-03, 01:23 PM   #17
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I also have a red Raleigh Super Course that looks very much like yours. It is from the early 1980's and has many of the same components in your list:
Araya rims
Suntour derailleurs
Weinman brakes

A picture of the head tube badge, and a close up of the original decals (if they were still on it when you got the bike) would help in dating it.
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