Somebody once loved it...Panasonic PT-3500
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Somebody once loved it...Panasonic PT-3500
...I had to take it home. I was on my way to the plumbing supply house this morning to pick up a part for the sprinkler system when I passed this pawn shop with a drop-bar bike sitting outside. I stopped to look and it was a late '80's Panasonic PT-3500 touring model. It appears to be in excellent condition - the chain is rusty and the tires flat but otherwise everything seems to be there, paint and decals are good. Frame is lugged, double-butted Tange 1000 CrMo with Mangaloy fork, Shimano Deore group, triple crank, cantilever brakes. Has a nice Blackburn rack and a Brooks saddle. Like most Japanese bikes it's a bit aesthetically challenged but it seems like a nice mid-range touring rig of the period and it's just my size. Cost me $30.
And...seat post and stem are NOT stuck and it's 6-speed index shifting. Didn't know there was such a thing. Frame spacing is 126mm. Serial number is 8C04545 so it appears to be an '88 model.
And...seat post and stem are NOT stuck and it's 6-speed index shifting. Didn't know there was such a thing. Frame spacing is 126mm. Serial number is 8C04545 so it appears to be an '88 model.
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A steal...
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A little chain lube, some oil, dumped the plastic toe clips, adjusted the seat and stem, and pumped up the tires and it was ready for a ride around the block. Shifting and braking are excellent. Steering is rather heavy like my Pug UO8. I think it's the cheap, heavy 27x1 1/4 tires. I'm not real fond of that but it needs tires anyway. The ones on it are cracked at the sidewalls. The biopace chain rings are kinda weird but I guess they're ok.
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Nice!! It probably never saw enough use for the seat to be laced. It looks too clean to have been used for actual touring. Damn, why can't I find something that cool. Crockett would be jealous of the paint scheme.,,,,BD
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The biopace chain rings are kinda weird but I guess they're ok.
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FWIW, I changed my old 27" wheel bike over to 700c, and it was as easy as putting the new (used) wheels on. The canti brakes required only a slight adjustment to get the pads centered on the rim. I've also got 9 speeds with friction shifting with only minor adjustments to the rear derailleur. It handles a lot better on 700c wheels.
That looks like a great commuter bike for $30.
Az
That looks like a great commuter bike for $30.
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The rack or the saddle are worth them 30 beans alone, nice score.
A set of Randonneur bars, some bar-cons, replace the rusty chain and it'll be a nice ride....
A set of Randonneur bars, some bar-cons, replace the rusty chain and it'll be a nice ride....
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How can it handle "a lot better" on 700's? What's the difference in diameter between 700 and 27"? Like 4mm or something?,,,,BD
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Nice!! It probably never saw enough use for the seat to be laced. It looks too clean to have been used for actual touring. Damn, why can't I find something that cool. Crockett would be jealous of the paint scheme.,,,,BD
Now THAT's a Crockett paint job...
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
How can it handle "a lot better" on 700's? What's the difference in diameter between 700 and 27"? Like 4mm or something?,,,,BD
That's one thing that will be far easier with this Panasonic. I'm not a "collector" per se of Japanese bikes so I won't be as concerned with keeping it original as I am with my Bottecchia. Fear not, I wouldn't want to completely change the character of the bike but if I'm goona use it regularly as a commuter/touring bike it may end up with a Nitto bar, Honjo fenders, 700C wheels and a 9-spd Shimano drivetrain.
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Originally Posted by beakgeek
Nice find. The seven is the second digit in the year and the D is the month. A = January.....D = April.
Originally Posted by T-Mar
Why take it apart when you don't have to? All the Shimano parts should have two digit date codes. Like on the back of the rear derailleur parallelogram or the back of the front derailleur cage. If it's 1986 the code will start with K. L is 1987, M is 1988 etc. Work forward or back from these, as applicable.
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
How can it handle "a lot better" on 700's? What's the difference in diameter between 700 and 27"? Like 4mm or something?,,,,BD
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So I bought some of those Forte 27x1" tires (https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5420) from Performance today for $10. I only rode around in a circle in front of the house so I can't say how they really ride yet but the percieved handling was much improved. Interestingly (and I know Sheldon Brown has pointed out this discrepancy before) the 27x1" tires are really 22mm wide according to my micrometer! That's actually a 7/8" tire. Not that I'm complaining as I was looking for a narrow tire but that is a huge difference from 25.4mm that they should nominally be.