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    80s Kirtland Panniers--desirable/collectible?

    Picked up some mid-80s or earlier unused Kirtland panniers--complete set in yellow--front panniers, rear panniers, big handlebar bag with mount and rear rack bag. A new set of Kelly Green Kirtland front panniers and handlebar bag was also included, as well as a used set of front & rear purple Madden pannier bags. Are the Kirtlands desirable for those collectors/tourer who ride 80s touring bikes, or are they too 'old-school' to be considered for today's tourist? Almost hate to use them because they look so pretty!

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    I really like the old stuff. I still have a set of old Cannondale rear panniers. I did end up buying a small set of Arkel front panniers but I always carry my Cannondales. Kirtland made some nice bags back then. Good find!
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    I'm nostalgically nuts for these. My first set of panniers was a set of blue Kirtland Tour Paks. I still have the handle-bar bag from that set, but it has seen many a mile as I used it for commuting for years. I've picked up some blue, red, yellow and green ones in the last few years, but sold them off (except the blue) as I couldn't figure out why I needed to have them. Found and sold some vintage Cannondales and others and they seem to do OK so I think there is a bit of a market out there.

    So you have a nice set of yellow? ... hmmm ...

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    I have Kirtland panniers and handlebar bags and I still use them. In all the years, I've never found anything I like as much. They were beautifully made and highly functional. Don't consider them museum pieces. Use these for a while and you'll find the "modern" products to be highly annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmantra
    Picked up some mid-80s or earlier unused Kirtland panniers--complete set in yellow--front panniers, rear panniers, big handlebar bag with mount and rear rack bag. A new set of Kelly Green Kirtland front panniers and handlebar bag was also included, as well as a used set of front & rear purple Madden pannier bags. Are the Kirtlands desirable for those collectors/tourer who ride 80s touring bikes, or are they too 'old-school' to be considered for today's tourist? Almost hate to use them because they look so pretty!
    I think you did real well. Maddens are still great panniers, and I have a set of Kirtland large wedges (his n hers) that are uniquely functional, IMHO. Maybe I'd like a Carradice wedge better, but I dunno!

    I don't really tour or collect bags, so I won't comment on actual collectibility. But all those bags should be durable, functional, and useful, and hence desirable. As far as Ebay ads that suitably highlight those attributes, you take it from here!

    Have you also inquired on the Touring forum?

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    Have you also inquired on the Touring forum?

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    No I haven't put this on the touring forum, but I'm tempted to keep the Kirtlands & maybe sell the Maddens--that yellow set of Kirtlands on my burgundy '85 Trek 720 ought to look pretty, & period correct as well!

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    picked these up yesterday on CraigList for $ 10 or both, still haven't figured how to put them on m,y mtb/commuter, any help would be appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elad63
    picked these up yesterday on CraigList for $ 10 or both, still haven't figured how to put them on m,y mtb/commuter, any help would be appreciated
    I am in the same boat. I have one exactly the same as the red one in your photo, and for the life of me I still haven't figured out how to mount it onto the handlebars on ANY of my bikes. From what I can deduct, the length and rise of stem used seems to be the determining factor. Anyone else got any ideas?
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    yes, I got it to fit on my road bike, but will not fit properly on my mtb which does have some rise to it

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    [4 years later...] I ::think:: the mount for handlebar bags worked on old style bikes-but would have to be modified/bent for newer.
    I bought a pair of drk blue Kirtland rear panniers back in the early 80's and NEVER used them. Finally christened them on a US Canada trip. The water proofing layer instantly flaked off...which I expected...BUT when i got home, the inside edges of the fabric where two pieces had come together and been sewn had unraveled beyond the joining seam...leaving open splits in tops of panniers. Sad. Thinking of ways to salvage .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elad63 View Post
    picked these up yesterday on CraigList for $ 10 or both, still haven't figured how to put them on m,y mtb/commuter, any help would be appreciated
    I have that exact same bag! (+ a pair of kirtland panniers) that came with my garage sale Trek 620. I love the hbar bag, and its alway attached to the 620.
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    I know how it attaches - and it wont fit on most mtb stems. I can show you a pic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipodes View Post
    I am in the same boat. I have one exactly the same as the red one in your photo, and for the life of me I still haven't figured out how to mount it onto the handlebars on ANY of my bikes. From what I can deduct, the length and rise of stem used seems to be the determining factor. Anyone else got any ideas?
    When we sold Kirtland decades ago there was a fastenerless adaptor that allowed attachment and support of the bag while holing it proud of the bars, Velo Orange I think had a run made up. Very useful for a non permanent solution.

    I forgot about the Kirtland mount system for the later bags, that was pretty well thought out. for its time, the bungee wore out though, and would wear the paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgodave View Post
    I know how it attaches - and it wont fit on most mtb stems. I can show you a pic...
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    I like Kirtland bags to use. The material colors, especially the green and yellow, scream late 70's & early 80's. My yellow set have been beaten unto a near pulp. I'd love to replace them. OR, find bags to match the lovely green handlebar bag that I recently brought out to use.

    They aren't really heavy duty, but I simply love the appeal (to me) of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elad63 View Post
    picked these up yesterday on CraigList for $ 10 or both, still haven't figured how to put them on m,y mtb/commuter, any help would be appreciated
    Those have a following. If you can't figure out how get them on you bike, toss 'em up on eBay - they'll go for $30-$45 each.
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    Love my Kirtlands. Have a full set. Regularly only use the front bag. It's from 1982 on my Trek mountain bike. Trek's original MB.

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    I sold them at my bike shop in the early 80's. Excellent quality-heavy material and great stitching. Hard to find something built as well today(you can say that about lots of things, too.)

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    Weren't Kirtlands a copy of Touring Cyclist bags? I have some small Kirtlands. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbike View Post
    I sold them at my bike shop in the early 80's. Excellent quality-heavy material and great stitching. Hard to find something built as well today(you can say that about lots of things, too.)
    Jack -

    Recommend giving the Lone Peak bags a look. I bought a complete set (LP-10, Yellow/Black) and am impressed with quality and strength of the materials. TheTouringStore.com is main seller. Ask for Wayne@TheTouringStore.com

    Example:
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    BTW; The Lone Peaks are 100% made in The U.S.A. which was important to my buying decision.

    Hope that helps
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    Sun UV breaks down nylon fibers over time . so if it was left inside in a box, all this time, it's better.

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    Back in 2007 when this thread first started I would have said, NO, they have no collectible value. But fast forward to 2014 and I'd say YES, they have collectible value if they're in 9/10 condition or better.
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    My comment dates from 2011, but holds true. I love these bags. And yellow are fabulous.

    This is my 1971 TDF in a photo taken in 1981.



    A replacement yellow handlebar bag came later. Those saddle bags were already rather beat. The green bar bag was rather new when the photo was taken.

    The rubberized waterproofing coating on the insides of these tend to die. In my oldest sets, I've just scrubbed 'em clean inside. If you want, you can re-spray waterproofing inside, but I'm not doing a lot of bad weather riding. I have a purple set that is newer if I need waterproof.

    Another point is that the fastening system evolved during their production life. You may like some variations more than others.

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