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Old 07-29-20, 07:35 AM
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Identifying "Cycles Competition"

I see that another poster had been trying to find out about his Cycles Competition, but not much was discovered, at least nothing concrete. I was really interested because of how nice the lugs are and also this one has a Campy headset. Anybody recognize the components? I know they're not the best pics... Very curious about "Cycles Competition" ça semble d'être une marque Francais

Edit: that "touriste" stem seems to be an old 3TTT




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lug pattern NERVEX 45/159

fork crown BOCAMA

appears mid-to-late 1970's

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one wonders if the Cycles Competition transfer set is one which can be purchased as a generic for those bicycles which lack one...

it closely resembles the pattern employed by Cycles Groleau:




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here is a case where someone has affixed a set to an older tandem -





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forum member non-fixie has commented upon the subject of generic after-market transfer sets in some of his posts. perhaps he shall be able to comment here...
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should you wish to pursue an identification of the machine one thing you could do to advance matters would be to make some detail photos of the frame showing spots such as: bottom bracket shell, seat cluster & joinery of taper tubes to frame ends.

one manufacturer who made extensive use of this lug pattern for some of their contract builds was MICMO (Gitane). it is of course something available to all.

if you are able to get the detail pictures up prior to member MauriceMoss 's next visit he may be able to recognize the maker for you.

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lug pattern NERVEX 45/159

fork crown BOCAMA

appears mid-to-late 1970's

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one wonders if the Cycles Competition transfer set is one which can be purchased as a generic for those bicycles which lack one...

it closely resembles the pattern employed by Cycles Groleau:




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here is a case where someone has affixed a set to an older tandem -





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forum member non-fixie has commented upon the subject of generic after-market transfer sets in some of his posts. perhaps he shall be able to comment here...
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should you wish to pursue an identification of the machine one thing you could do to advance matters would be to make some detail photos of the frame showing spots such as: bottom bracket shell, seat cluster & joinery of taper tubes to frame ends.

one manufacturer who made extensive use of this lug pattern for some of their contract builds was MICMO (Gitane). it is of course something available to all.

if you are able to get the detail pictures up prior to member MauriceMoss 's next visit he may be able to recognize the maker for you.

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Unfortunately getting more detailed photos isn't possible, those are the only photos from a classifieds ad online. But also, the bike has been sold, the seller was asking 160 CAD, was very reasonable. Thanks anyway!
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thank you for the response

reviewed images

frame is 1960's era Italian and has been reworked
appears a midliner model; as in two up from the bottom and two down from the top

eyelets removed front and rear

TT stops & w/b clear additions

odd that it has those braze-ons paired with a clamp-on c/s stop

perhaps the person performing the alterations ran out of gas or brazing rod for their torch

difficult to know who the maker may have been...

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I believe these are generic decals. There are a few versions still floating around on ebay, and they use names like "Competition", "Record", "Victory", "Campione" and "Super" and all look similar. Many of these were made by G.Decal in Bologna.

Here is "your" set:



This is the "Victory" version:



I found those on one of my bikes, which is actually a very nice bike, a Union "Rini Wagtmans", supposedly built by Gianni Motta. Applied in a rather liberal fashion:

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Originally Posted by non-fixie
I believe these are generic decals. There are a few versions still floating around on ebay, and they use names like "Competition", "Record", "Victory", "Campione" and "Super" and all look similar. Many of these were made by G.Decal in Bologna.

Here is "your" set:



This is the "Victory" version:



I found those on one of my bikes, which is actually a very nice bike, a Union "Rini Wagtmans", supposedly built by Gianni Motta. Applied in a rather liberal fashion:

Now that is close-ratio gearing! The frame is too tall for me, and the gearing is too tall for me.
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Now that is close-ratio gearing! The frame is too tall for me, and the gearing is too tall for me.
I think that is the block I used for my weight weenie build. Even with a 37T inner ring its use is limited to the flat area where I live. Nice and light, though.
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