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Old 07-03-07, 12:30 PM   #1
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PH8 Restoration...In the works.

So here is my PH8 which I have set to restore. I'm pretty much done taking it apart except for the races. The picture shows the crank still in place put it has been removed. How do I take these (the races) off? I was planning on placing a pipe that fits inside the frame and smacking it with a hammer. I've haven't done this for fear of causing damage to the races. Also, I went to my LBS here in Belgium and asked one of the guys there if they had any old parts that they wanted to get rid of? He went to the back and came back with a bag with a Campagnolo crank. I asked how much and he said "nothing." He then led to the back and let me go through all the old components they had removed from other customers and told me to "go to town" and to take anything I wanted. I took a complete set of Shimano 600 brakes with levers also. That's all I took since I didn't want to seem like a leech. How cool was that!!! Well, I'm just wondering if this crank will fit my Peugeot? Thanks guys. I'll be posting more pictures as I continue working on the bike.

P.s Does any one know where I can get that same color but in a spray can? I also got two other bikes today. One is a M. Kint???? (you'll see what I mean once I take a pic) and the other might be an Old Eddy Merckx. I'll put more info soon.

Here is that M. Kint bike I was speaking about. M. Kint bicycle??????
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Old 07-04-07, 07:05 AM   #2
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Wow! That's great that the LBS let you pick out some parts for free. Dr. D might be able to help you with the colour matching on the paint. He may wander through this thread, or else he has a general paint thread in the General Cycling forum where you can post questions.

Very nice!

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Old 07-04-07, 10:47 AM   #3
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Thanks East Hill. Will do. Now, I'm hoping someone here could shed some light on those races. There holding be back.
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Are you talking about the headset races? I tap them out with a piece of 1/2 copper pipe. Copper is soft, so it won't damage steel parts. I tap all around from inside, being careful not to let them get crooked. To keep them from hitting the floor, I use a plastic bag rubber banded to the head tube.

The tightest ones I've ever encountered were on a Peugeot PX10. They obviously didn't use any grease when they installed them at the factory.
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Are you talking about the headset races? I tap them out with a piece of 1/2 copper pipe. Copper is soft, so it won't damage steel parts. I tap all around from inside, being careful not to let them get crooked. To keep them from hitting the floor, I use a plastic bag rubber banded to the head tube.

The tightest ones I've ever encountered were on a Peugeot PX10. They obviously didn't use any grease when they installed them at the factory.
Thanks for the tips. So, when I put them back on...add a bit of grease. Gotch ya.
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Your campy crank appears to be of the "Super Record" vintage, easily worth more than the whole bike frame you have there. In any case, it will not fit on the current BB spindle you have on the bike, since it appears to be a "cottered" style of crank, and the campy is "cotterless" (the cotter is the pin that holds the crank to the spindle (axle) on older bikes. So, if you want to use the campy crank you will need to use a different spindle made for cotterless cranks, with the correct square taper, and the correct length for your BB so the drive-side crank does not either sit too far out from the BB or too far in so it hits the frame with the chainring teeth. Hopefully your current BB cups can be used, since it is difficult to find new ones (or good used ones) with the correct threading for these older french bikes sometimes. Good luck!
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Make sure to bring that LBS a bunch of beer as a thank you.
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Make sure to bring that LBS a bunch of beer as a thank you.

That's exactly what I did, but they don't drink! I couldn't believe it. Belgians that don't drink....get out of here! I'm taking then instead some pizzas and soft drinks for lunch.
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Your campy crank appears to be of the "Super Record" vintage, easily worth more than the whole bike frame you have there. In any case, it will not fit on the current BB spindle you have on the bike, since it appears to be a "cottered" style of crank, and the campy is "cotterless" (the cotter is the pin that holds the crank to the spindle (axle) on older bikes. So, if you want to use the campy crank you will need to use a different spindle made for cotterless cranks, with the correct square taper, and the correct length for your BB so the drive-side crank does not either sit too far out from the BB or too far in so it hits the frame with the chainring teeth. Hopefully your current BB cups can be used, since it is difficult to find new ones (or good used ones) with the correct threading for these older french bikes sometimes. Good luck!
The guy, now my friend, at the LBS gave me the BB that goes with that crank. It's also a Campagnolo and it's complete except for the bearing. After researching here, I've decided that I will be using the campy crank and BB on another project of mine; a Kessels Merckx. Thanks for the info.
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The guy, now my friend, at the LBS gave me the BB that goes with that crank. It's also a Campagnolo and it's complete except for the bearing. After researching here, I've decided that I will be using the campy crank and BB on another project of mine; a Kessels Merckx. Thanks for the info.
Here's the link to that Eddy Merckx bike I'm talking about. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...54#post4846154
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Update of PH

Here is a pic of the newly painted fork. I was going to use the same color but I've always wanted a dark blue bike. I painted the fork first to see how it would look. I like it; what do you guys think? I should finish the frame sometime next week. It's been raining here to often. What would you expect from Belgium.
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Here it is newly painted: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...38#post5251338
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