My Raleigh Roadster - Repaint, or what?
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My Raleigh Roadster - Repaint, or what?
I got this bike weeks ago, and posted it briefly in Catch of the Day. I rode it once, a 16 mile training ride, and bent a pedal, and since then, I've been so busy working and getting married that I hadn't touched it til today. So, today I replaced the pedals, and took it out on a ride that was more within it's design brief - a run into town for shopping. It was GREAT. It's the most comfortable bike I own, with the slack angles, sprung seat and soft tyres, it's like riding on air, and it actually makes me ride in a relaxed way. It's the only bike on which I'm able to escape my tendency to make a ride a time trial every time. There are, however, a couple of things I don't like. One is the brakes -they're really nasty pressed steel sidepulls, little stopping power and very squeely. On both sides, one arm has bent under brake force. I'm thinking about the sacrelage of putting long reach double pivot calipers and kool stop salmon pads on it for that. The other thing is the paint. It's tired, and in places there's rust (not on the main frame - on the fender arms), but it's also not that nice. British Racing Green is just not on for bikes, in my view. Now the obvious thing would be to respray it in black, which looks really classy, but then again, it's never going to outclassy the Gentlemens Express lightweight 3 speed I'm building on a Dawes Galaxy 531 frame. So I got to thinking, this thing would look great in purple. Or Yellow. Or Fire Engine Red. Or red with yellow fenders..... The possibilities are endless. Of course, it'd be more of a theft magnet, but it'd be SOOO cool. What do you think?
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I dig the green, but I think you should repaint it in any color you like. I also thing you should change the rims out for aluminum ones that'll further improve braking, and lighten the whole thing up significantly.
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If I do change out the wheels, it'll be rims only, and I'll have to rebuild them myself. That's a 4 speed SA generator hub, and I'm not giving that up for anyone! I'm not worried about the weight, and it's not a bike that wants to be ridden fast, so I might well find that dual pivot brakes and salmon pads is enough.
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I hear ya. I love old 3-speeds, and I've been wanting to upgrade the wheels and brakes one one for some time now. I think it's the mere existence of Sun CR-18s in that size that inspired the desire in me.
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html
I also really like these tires on old 3-speeds
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html
I also really like these tires on old 3-speeds
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Oooh. That is rather nice. Although I'm rather enjoying having nice low pressure tyres on there at present.....
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Sammy,
Give the bike a good coating of 90wt gear oil, let sit overnight then wipe off and see what you think of the paint then...or if you want just try one of the fenders first. That is what I have done with a couple of my older British bikes. Other than that it is your bike do what you want with it
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Give the bike a good coating of 90wt gear oil, let sit overnight then wipe off and see what you think of the paint then...or if you want just try one of the fenders first. That is what I have done with a couple of my older British bikes. Other than that it is your bike do what you want with it
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Yeah - I just don't like the green, clean or not! It looks ok on a Jaguar, but on this, it just looks agricultural....
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
Oooh. That is rather nice. Although I'm rather enjoying having nice low pressure tyres on there at present.....
I forgot what Raleigh UK called that green (it isn't Bronze Green, that's for sure), but I've always been a great admirer of it. The only thing that trumps it, IMHO, is Rudge Maroon.
P.S.: Here in the States, we have Meguiars Scratch X, which works wonders on Raleigh paint, amongst all others. Not sure if they carry the same stuff on that side of the pond, but I wouldn't hesitate to check.
-Kurt
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I think it's older than you're estimating Kurt - the FG hub is a 67. Maybe I need to try cleaning it up, but to me, the paint doesn't look all that good, even if you like the colour. What it might also get is a proper sprung Brooks (rather than a mattress like it's got), perhaps a B67 or something.
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
I think it's older than you're estimating Kurt - the FG hub is a 67. Maybe I need to try cleaning it up, but to me, the paint doesn't look all that good, even if you like the colour. What it might also get is a proper sprung Brooks (rather than a mattress like it's got), perhaps a B67 or something.
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Or maybe the wheels were a retrofit? The style of the thumbshifter is one of the "older" ones as well. I'll try to snap the decal pic when I can.
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
So I got to thinking, this thing would look great in purple. Or Yellow. Or Fire Engine Red. Or red with yellow fenders..... The possibilities are endless. Of course, it'd be more of a theft magnet, but it'd be SOOO cool. What do you think?
PURPLE!
I think purple is an excellent choice~!
That particular bike would be awesome in purple!
A really bright, sparkly, lowrider type of purple!
THAT would really grab people by the . . . !
Oh, and add a burning skull to the circle of the chainguard!
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Sam,
Whatever you do to it, you really need to organize those cables so is doesn't look like you're transporting a nest of snakes.
Unless that bike is worth a whole bunch of money, go ahead and paint it. Consider the effect of cable colors when you make the choice, as they might not leave you with too many options.
Also, changing out the rims truly isn't that big a deal. Take some good before pictures just in case, but truly, with a couple hours and a set of directions from Sheldon's site, you'll have some very respectably straight wheels on your bike.
Whatever you do to it, you really need to organize those cables so is doesn't look like you're transporting a nest of snakes.
Unless that bike is worth a whole bunch of money, go ahead and paint it. Consider the effect of cable colors when you make the choice, as they might not leave you with too many options.
Also, changing out the rims truly isn't that big a deal. Take some good before pictures just in case, but truly, with a couple hours and a set of directions from Sheldon's site, you'll have some very respectably straight wheels on your bike.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Deltron
+1!!!
PURPLE!
I think purple is an excellent choice~!
That particular bike would be awesome in purple!
A really bright, sparkly, lowrider type of purple!
THAT would really grab people by the . . . !
Oh, and add a burning skull to the circle of the chainguard!
PURPLE!
I think purple is an excellent choice~!
That particular bike would be awesome in purple!
A really bright, sparkly, lowrider type of purple!
THAT would really grab people by the . . . !
Oh, and add a burning skull to the circle of the chainguard!
I like purple. How's it going way out west there Dr. D.?
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Yeah, the routing for the lighting cables is pantalons. I could put all those inside a black rubber cover though.....
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I don't think I could repaint that, but, I really like the green.
I think a light buffing would do wonders for it.
I think a light buffing would do wonders for it.
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I like that bike, reminds me of the RAleigh Sports that transported me everywhere back in the early 80s. I also think the green is an attractive color, but its your bike so please yourself. My Raleigh was a Black 1969 model & had a very comfortable B72 saddle. The prior owner had done the oil rubdown treatment once a year & I have to say it certainly kept the paint looking great so you might want to try an oil rub on yours before you decide on painting or not. Don
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
Or red with yellow fenders
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That, right there, is what I'm talking about. You KNOW it would look cool, and it would be a great townie/grocery getter, specially with those baskets on it....
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Kurt I think this is the Rudge Maroon you are talking about. The bikes are a few months apart in age.
The one on the right of the picture is the one Sammyboy sent me. I ride it a few times a week. I would not paint it or the Raleigh Sam has but that is me. I love original paint bikes. Sam can find these bikes at every village in the UK. Painting his is no bad thing.
Here is a 39 Raleigh in black.
It does look nice in black. I used the oil trick and it brightened up the black. It is also a great bike to ride.
The one on the right of the picture is the one Sammyboy sent me. I ride it a few times a week. I would not paint it or the Raleigh Sam has but that is me. I love original paint bikes. Sam can find these bikes at every village in the UK. Painting his is no bad thing.
Here is a 39 Raleigh in black.
It does look nice in black. I used the oil trick and it brightened up the black. It is also a great bike to ride.
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They do look gorgeous in black, and it is an original Raleigh colour. I love it with those Lauterwasser bars, too, though they'd change the character of mine too much.
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Originally Posted by mattface
I dig the green, but I think you should repaint it in any color you like. I also thing you should change the rims out for aluminum ones that'll further improve braking, and lighten the whole thing up significantly.
Last edited by NormanF; 12-18-08 at 12:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by mattface
I hear ya. I love old 3-speeds, and I've been wanting to upgrade the wheels and brakes one one for some time now. I think it's the mere existence of Sun CR-18s in that size that inspired the desire in me.
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html
I also really like these tires on old 3-speeds
https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html
I also really like these tires on old 3-speeds
With a Sports, I'd go with 700C. More tire choices available in that size that you can find in any bike shop.
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Originally Posted by Sammyboy
That, right there, is what I'm talking about. You KNOW it would look cool, and it would be a great townie/grocery getter, specially with those baskets on it....
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Originally Posted by mswantak
Yeah, but the baskets need to be wicker.
Wire baskets are for canned goods, and machinery and other manly stuff.
Before changing out baskets on a whim, one would do best to ask oneself, "what sort of items do I intend to transport?"
Yeah. I thought so.
<edit> - of course, it is a ladies' model bike.
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