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    Wrapping with barcons, and housing length?

    I'm pretty close to wrapping the bars on my Voyageur, but I don't really know how to not get a gap in the wrap where the housing splits off. I'm planning to reuse the original spring housings, yet one is a few inches shorter? Is there a right and left, and is the short one too short now because some cut it? Thanks for any tips. I think I asked this once before but didn't really get any responses that I remember?,,,,BD
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    I run mine all the way under the bar tape. I know it's not the old school way, but I think with new SIS housing it's fine, works for me anyway. My World Sport I used the original clear/wound steel housing and it also works fine. I guess that really doesn't answer your questions at all though does it

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    Well, kind of, since I'm considering ditching the spring housing, as cool as it may be. I'm thinking red
    housings, as silver would seem a little bland, and the decals are red anyway. I'm curious what it looks like completely wrapped under the tape. I think the old school way looks kind of cool, but I'm interested in seeing yours at least?,,,,BD

    For wrap I chose the Cinelli woven pattern stuff in black. Should look sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amnomad
    I run mine all the way under the bar tape. I know it's not the old school way, but I think with new SIS housing it's fine, works for me anyway. My World Sport I used the original clear/wound steel housing and it also works fine. I guess that really doesn't answer your questions at all though does it
    I believe that way is just as "old school" as the ugly way where it comes off the bottom of the drop. Either is acceptable. I prefer the full wrap method.

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    I bring mine out about 5 turns of tape from the ends of the bars and loop the cables over my period-correct cylindrical Bellwether handlebar bag.
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    I'm not sure if you can tell very well from this picture, but on this bike I brought them out from under the inside of the brake hoods and it worked out well. I taped the cable to the brake and it stays where I put it and doesn't interfere with my grip.

    This particular frame is pretty big and I did have to pick up a tandem brake cable for the rear as the OE Dura-Ace was inches short.
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    Here's a pic of my World Sport with barcons and aero brake levers, both with the clear wound steel housing. I haven't had a problem with the RD cable being too short, although I will say with the Trek I put together yesterday I didn't have to trim it.

    hmmm I need to swap the grey lever covers over to the trek and put the black ones on the schwinn.......

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    Okay I got it now! Thanks for the pics. I think I may do it that way, although this build will be pretty old school. I'm even using a Schwinn Approved square generator light set. It's the one that looks kind of like a fishtail in back, and has a squarish headlight. I don't think the generator works though, unfortunately.,,,,BD
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    The original stainless housings can chafe the paint on your headtube. I'm not going to put them back on my PX10 when I get the frame back from Dr. Deltron. I'm hoping the shifting will feel less vague with SIS housings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
    The original stainless housings can chafe the paint on your headtube...
    A short piece of clear surgical tubing will fix that. It's practically invisible, and non-abraisive.
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    Well, I imagine they might wear on chrome after a while too, hehe. I will buy some new red housings and do the whole bike in it. Black, red, and chrome should look great!,,,,BD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued
    I don't think the generator works though, unfortunately.,,,,BD
    I'd be surprised; especially if it's a Union dynamo. There's precious little to go wrong with those things. I've had a bunch of them and only one ever gave up the ghost. If you can't get it working, PM me; I've got a couple extras laying around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis
    I believe that way is just as "old school" as the ugly way where it comes off the bottom of the drop. Either is acceptable. I prefer the full wrap method.
    I don't think that looks ugly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtdrop
    The original stainless housings can chafe the paint on your headtube. I'm not going to put them back on my PX10 when I get the frame back from Dr. Deltron. I'm hoping the shifting will feel less vague with SIS housings.
    There is a product that is a thick, clear tape to protect your paint from cable rub. I think it's called frame saver. I have it on my Trek and you can't even see it.

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    I copied the way Velo Orange did their elk hide covers (though mine are a little higher)...


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    Quote Originally Posted by mswantak
    I'd be surprised; especially if it's a Union dynamo. There's precious little to go wrong with those things. I've had a bunch of them and only one ever gave up the ghost. If you can't get it working, PM me; I've got a couple extras laying around.
    It's a Soubitez, and I believe it has a special mounting. I could be mistaken though. I'm going to try cleaning all the wire contacts, but it has never worked, not even on the
    78 Continental it came on. I figured it was more fitting for them to be on a touring bike.,,,,,BD
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDave
    I copied the way Velo Orange did their elk hide covers (though mine are a little higher)...
    WHOA! That is one NICE looking ride!,,,,BD
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    Quote Originally Posted by McDave
    I copied the way Velo Orange did their elk hide covers (though mine are a little higher)...


    Those elk hide covers look great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner Fan
    There is a product that is a thick, clear tape to protect your paint from cable rub. I think it's called frame saver. I have it on my Trek and you can't even see it.
    Interesting. There's a product that you spray on the inside of steel bike tubes to inhibit rust that has the same name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro
    Interesting. There's a product that you spray on the inside of steel bike tubes to inhibit rust that has the same name.
    I know. When I went to the LBS and asked for frame saver (the spray) they thought I meant the tape.

    Edit: Ok, I looked it up. The LBS guys thought it was called frame saver. This looks like the right stuff. It's called Bonk cable rub patches.

    http://www.bonkprotection.com/prods.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner Fan
    There is a product that is a thick, clear tape to protect your paint from cable rub. I think it's called frame saver. I have it on my Trek and you can't even see it.

    Lizard Skin makes some clear frame patches:

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/140...me-Patches.htm

    Also make clear chainstay protector and frame patch set:

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/140...me-Patches.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by John E
    I bring mine out about 5 turns of tape from the ends of the bars and loop the cables over my period-correct cylindrical Bellwether handlebar bag.
    Hahaha....nice....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued
    WHOA! That is one NICE looking ride!,,,,BD
    Thanks BD and Mariner Fan!

    I voted for red & black too for this one...


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    That's about what it will look like, except for barcons and that carbon looking Cinelli tape in black. I started out just cleaning this bike up, and now it's going to be a nice custom. I'm also considering dropping another
    $75 for a B-17. The broken in one I just got a month ago, went on the 12.2. Maybe I will swap them, a broken in Brooks on a fresh rebuild will be the icing on the cake,,,,BD

    Are those Mikes Voyageur decals?? Man I need a set of those like yesterday!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikedued
    That's about what it will look like, except for barcons and that carbon looking Cinelli tape in black. I started out just cleaning this bike up, and now it's going to be a nice custom. I'm also considering dropping another
    $75 for a B-17. The broken in one I just got a month ago, went on the 12.2. Maybe I will swap them, a broken in Brooks on a fresh rebuild will be the icing on the cake,,,,BD

    Are those Mikes Voyageur decals?? Man I need a set of those like yesterday!!
    I just got back from it's maiden voyageur and I'm grinning ear to ear . You see, I thought it was going to be too big for me, but after taking photos I dropped the seat and let me tell you it's the sweetest riding bike in my stable. It's even a little better than the 23" black 11.8 in my sig. I guess I have short legs because my upper body really likes the longer top tube.

    I'm keeping it and barcons will be going on it tomorrow! Yeehaaa!

    PM me. I'll sell you the extra set of decals I got from Mike for what I paid for them ($60). I don't need them now that I'm keeping this one.

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