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Old 07-05-07, 07:58 PM   #1
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Replacing an old Peugeot heatset.....

I recently bought an old Yellow Peugeot from a guy on CL for $60. The guy said he bought it new and used it in college in the early 70's. But the headset is worn out and it seems like it tries to get stuck in the forward direction. I have heard that parts for old French bikes are hard(er) to find. Will it be something that my LBS can order, or do I have to find it online myself? I was looking at the Park Tool website and it looks to be a job that requires alot of tools and know how, so I think that I will need to let the LBS do the change out. And I probably should get the BB serviced also, I would think.

Oh yea, I wish I could post pics of the the bike, but my camera got left at my moms house 2 hours away this last weekend. Pics will be available hopefully this weekend!
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Old 07-05-07, 08:16 PM   #2
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The bike shop will probably tell you they can't get a headset with French threads. Here's a link to une of the lightest and best headsets you can buy for a great price.

http://www.xxcycle.com/a9,,en.php
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Truth is, it's pretty easy, ...and, it's more than likely all you will need are some new ball bearings, the races are generally ok to re-use.
(All this is on the condition that it's really a case of dried lubricant and worn bearings, and not damaged races, once disassembled, it's very easy to tell the difference.)


Take the bars off, take off the (Generally two) top nuts.. fork will now drop through, and away from the frame.

Gather up and count all the Bearings. Take one to the LBS, (If they are pitted) Get replacements.

Get tube of grease.

Re-assemble.

P.S. Clean everything very well before putting it back together.
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Old 07-05-07, 08:24 PM   #4
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Bearings on a bicycle allow the parts to rotate relative to one another. The headset allows the fork to turn smoothly while riding. Bicycles, and all two wheeled vehicles, make small self-corrections in steering while traveling forward. If the headset is pitted or worn, these corrections are not made smoothly and handling suffers. Very worn headsets tend to "lock up" when the front wheel is pointing straight. Pick up the front of the bike, and gently swing the handlebars back and forth from center. Pitting in the cups will cause the headset to stick as it passes through center position. A pitted headset should be replaced. New headsets are pressed into the frame and fork.
This is from the park tool website. It describes exactly what my bike is doing. So I am thinking that the cups are shot also.
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That won't happen with a Stronglight A-9 headset. It has roller bearings. Order it from France and you'll have it in a week. Don't try to install it yourself. Take it to a bike shop to have it installed. I normally encourage people to do it themselves, but that particular headset can easily be destroyed if you don't have the right tools. The crown race in particular is rather delecate.
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This is from the park tool website. It describes exactly what my bike is doing. So I am thinking that the cups are shot also.
It sounds like the headset is "indexed". Replacement is definitely called for.

I have a variation of that A-9 headset on the Trek 760 that Dr. Deltron has for painting now. When I disassembled the bike for shipping, I was surprised at the light weight and ingenious design. It's a bargain at the price it's listed at.
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This is from the park tool website. It describes exactly what my bike is doing. So I am thinking that the cups are shot also.

Theres some dirty little tricks around that problem.

Remove and rotate the lower frame cup 90 degrees and use loose ball bearings. Use as many as you can fit in there. If its real bad remove and rotate the fork race 90 degrees opposite the frame cup.
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Thanks for the info everyone and the link dirtdrop. Do they make a cartrige BB replacement for these old French bikes? And should I get my BB checked out before I place my order for my headset, so that if I need parts for that I can order them at the same time to save on shipping and waiting.

I am still waiting to get my camera back from my moms house (this weekend) so I can take some pictures of the bike before I start tearing it down. I did promise the guy I bought it from that I would email him before and after pictures. And that I wouldnt rob its soul and make it a fixed gear!
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French stronglight headse from Velo-Orange $39.00

http://www.velo-orange.com/sta9frth.html

Bottom Bracket:

http://www.velo-orange.com/edbobr.html
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French stronglight headse from Velo-Orange $39.00

http://www.velo-orange.com/sta9frth.html

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http://www.velo-orange.com/edbobr.html
http://www.xxcycle.com/a9,,en.php
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The bike shop will probably tell you they can't get a headset with French threads. Here's a link to une of the lightest and best headsets you can buy for a great price.

http://www.xxcycle.com/a9,,en.php
Thanks for posting that link, I was just looking for a good price one inch headset.
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Thanks again for the info everyone. I have just one more quick question about the A9. Does that include everything that might need to be replaced in the headset? I just dont want to end up having to make 2 orders (to France especially). Oh yea, here are the pics I promised.



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