noob here, trying to find out what this is worth
07-08-07, 08:22 PM
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noob here, trying to find out what this is worth
I have a late 80's early 90's Lotus Classique,in almost new condition, This bike is insanely light, it can't weigh more than 20 pounds.
The specs are as follows:
54 cm. Lotus Classique
Champion #1 frame
Ukai Rims 700x25c
Champion Fork
Champion Custom Bars
Sugino RT cranks
Sun Tour ARx Groupset
Downtube Friction shifters
54 cm. Lotus Classique
Champion #1 frame
Ukai Rims 700x25c
Champion Fork
Champion Custom Bars
Sugino RT cranks
Sun Tour ARx Groupset
Downtube Friction shifters
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07-08-07, 10:01 PM
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I really doubt that a chromoly-framed bike weighs 17 pounds. My Colombus Cromor tubing frame Pinarello weighs 23 lbs fully built up. Just my 2 cents.
What Suntour groupset is it? Pictures?
What Suntour groupset is it? Pictures?
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I'll bet you can get over $1500 on eBay. You should list it, and report back on your sales price! 
And the "frame weighs less than 2", that must be 2 kilograms?? Very light!
Downtube, 9-speed, Suntour FRICTION shifters? Please post some pictures!! Sounds like a one-off, one-of-a-kind, probably very valuable!
And the "frame weighs less than 2", that must be 2 kilograms?? Very light!
Downtube, 9-speed, Suntour FRICTION shifters? Please post some pictures!! Sounds like a one-off, one-of-a-kind, probably very valuable!
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07-09-07, 05:08 AM
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Lotus aadvertised the Classique with a claim weight of 23 lbs and usually these claims were optimistic, using the smallest frame sizes available. Your upgrades certainly wouldn't have removed 6 lbs. As for the age, the components sound 1983-1985.
07-09-07, 09:47 AM
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i'm not sure that it weighs 17 pounds, it was just a guess. It's still definately very light,comparable to some of the newer bikes that are <1000$. as for groupset, it's suntour ARx. I haven't seen any other bike like it. I'll try and get some pics up later. and to Mueller, you think I can really get that much?!?! I was only thinking it was worth maybe 400$.
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07-09-07, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ga_mueller
Downtube, 9-speed, Suntour FRICTION shifters? Please post some pictures!! Sounds like a one-off, one-of-a-kind, probably very valuable!
07-09-07, 10:45 AM
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One week ago I picked up a Lotus Challenger 12-speed at the local thrift store for $19.99. It's Cro-Mo with a hi-tensile fork and needed only a new chain to ride.
07-09-07, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
....Made originally to go with the Suntour Psychlone Gruppo.
A steel frame under 2lbs? Ok.........
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07-09-07, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
A steel frame under 2lbs? Ok.........
07-09-07, 03:07 PM
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hi there, can i just hog the question and find out what you guys think this bike could be doing: https://www.chermin.com/scapin/
thanks in advance!
thanks in advance!
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There was a Lotus Legend on eBay recently, the seller had a reserve of $395 on it, it didn't sell. Then he relisted it, with an opening bid of $249, no reserve. It didn't sell.
Just for comparison, the Lotus Legend was top of the line, so figure yours is worth less than $250.
On the other hand, this Lotus Odyssey frameset just sold for nearly $300!
Just for comparison, the Lotus Legend was top of the line, so figure yours is worth less than $250.
On the other hand, this Lotus Odyssey frameset just sold for nearly $300!
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[QUOTE=Blue Order]There was a Lotus Legend on eBay recently, the seller had a reserve of $395 on it, it didn't sell. Then he relisted it, with an opening bid of $249, no reserve. It didn't sell.
Just for comparison, the Lotus Legend was top of the line, so figure yours is worth less than $250.
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Just for comparison, the Lotus Legend was top of the line, so figure yours is worth less than $250.
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Originally Posted by straightballin
.... the frame alone weighs under 2.
You did initially state it was under 2lbs as fact, after all.
So, here are a couple of useful things:
A) I doubt there are too many steel frames under 3.5-4lbs, let alone 2.
B) Posting pictures would go A LONG WAY towards us helping you out. We need to see what you want us to evaluate. In detail.
C) What bike market are you in? Unless it is a very desireable classic (it isn't), the answer to "what is it worth" can vary wildly between locales. In SF you might get $200, in Forgan OK you might get $10.
Help us help you, and we will. Or, you can put it on eBay with a reserve of what you'd like to get for it and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
*packs bags for Forgan, Oklahoma...*
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Original retial price for a 1984-1985 Classique was $399 US. It it was all original, in good cosmetic and mechanical condition, it might bring $100-$150. The upgrades will not add much to the value and depending on the buyer, might even devalue the bicycle.
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
Don't get yer panties all in a bunch - we're (mostly) pals, here.
You did initially state it was under 2lbs as fact, after all.
So, here are a couple of useful things:
A) I doubt there are too many steel frames under 3.5-4lbs, let alone 2.
B) Posting pictures would go A LONG WAY towards us helping you out. We need to see what you want us to evaluate. In detail.
C) What bike market are you in? Unless it is a very desireable classic (it isn't), the answer to "what is it worth" can vary wildly between locales. In SF you might get $200, in Forgan OK you might get $10.
Help us help you, and we will. Or, you can put it on eBay with a reserve of what you'd like to get for it and see what happens.
You did initially state it was under 2lbs as fact, after all.
So, here are a couple of useful things:
A) I doubt there are too many steel frames under 3.5-4lbs, let alone 2.
B) Posting pictures would go A LONG WAY towards us helping you out. We need to see what you want us to evaluate. In detail.
C) What bike market are you in? Unless it is a very desireable classic (it isn't), the answer to "what is it worth" can vary wildly between locales. In SF you might get $200, in Forgan OK you might get $10.
Help us help you, and we will. Or, you can put it on eBay with a reserve of what you'd like to get for it and see what happens.
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ah, dude. it is a nice bike. a good rider. you won't send your children to college with the proceeds. And, bossman is always mocking, just a little...you should see it when he's really mocking.
07-09-07, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by luker
ah, dude. it is a nice bike. a good rider. you won't send your children to college with the proceeds. And, bossman is always mocking, just a little...you should see it when he's really mocking.
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Originally Posted by luker
And, bossman is always mocking, just a little...you should see it when he's really mocking.
Seriously - if I come across that way I sincerely apologize. I have a (sometimes poor) sense of humor, and reached a state of arrested maturity at about age 16. No harm meant, really. I'll try to be more helpful in the future.... until I forget myself again.
If you met me in person, you'd love me.
Honest to God.
Really.
Well....... some of you might.
Maybe
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
That hurts. Now you've gone and made me cry. >SNIFF<
Seriously - if I come across that way I sincerely apologize. I have a (sometimes poor) sense of humor, and reached a state of arrested maturity at about age 16. No harm meant, really. I'll try to be more helpful in the future.... until I forget myself again.
If you met me in person, you'd love me. Honest to God. Really. Well....... some of you might.
Seriously - if I come across that way I sincerely apologize. I have a (sometimes poor) sense of humor, and reached a state of arrested maturity at about age 16. No harm meant, really. I'll try to be more helpful in the future.... until I forget myself again.
If you met me in person, you'd love me. Honest to God. Really. Well....... some of you might.
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"Forgan OK you might get $10"....Is that near Minko, OK?
edit:
Good steel frames weigh in the 4-5 pound range, few are under 4 pounds. Hi Tension steel frames weigh in at around 7 pounds.
edit:
Good steel frames weigh in the 4-5 pound range, few are under 4 pounds. Hi Tension steel frames weigh in at around 7 pounds.
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
That hurts. Now you've gone and made me cry. >SNIFF<
Seriously - if I come across that way I sincerely apologize. I have a (sometimes poor) sense of humor, and reached a state of arrested maturity at about age 16. No harm meant, really. I'll try to be more helpful in the future.... until I forget myself again.
If you met me in person, you'd love me.
Honest to God.
Really.
Well....... some of you might.
Maybe
Seriously - if I come across that way I sincerely apologize. I have a (sometimes poor) sense of humor, and reached a state of arrested maturity at about age 16. No harm meant, really. I'll try to be more helpful in the future.... until I forget myself again.
If you met me in person, you'd love me.
Honest to God.
Really.
Well....... some of you might.
Maybe
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How could anyone not? With that nice bunny avatar and all.