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Old 07-11-07, 11:31 PM   #1
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Calling all late 80's Peugeot experts... i need help

I bought this frame for 10 bucks from some guys junky garage.. all he told me was that he thought it was a Peugeot.... i thought ok.. ill take a 10 dollar gamble.



So my plan is to turn this into a decent fixed gear. I took a blowtorch to all the brazed on bits, cable guides, etc, and a dremel to all the extraneous appendages. Next step was to get it sand blasted to get the 3 layers of paint and fakey Campy decals off there.
so this is what I'm left with at this point.



I took it to my bike mechanic and he told me it was definitely french design and also that it was "english" which i assume is the threading on the bottom bracket? After that he said its most likely a late 80s or early 90's Peugeot. I also noted that the frame was entirely brazed and not lugged or welded. My buddy told me that because of this its most likely a Carbolite frame. Anyone have any other thoughts on this? What model Peugeot this might actually be?

All i had for identification was the serial number stamped on the bottom bracket. Y9C3 27465

I've been told you can get the decade the bike was made by the number of numbers... I dont know though.

I guess bottom line.. is it worth putting money into and building up? Is it really a Peugeot??

Im planning on getting it powder coated or professionally painted, finding a fork, and then going from there. wish me luck! and give me advice!!
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Did you cut off the derailleur hanger? Otherwise it looks very much like my frame which is an 87 or 88 Peugeot. Since your serial number starts with Y9, I'll guess it's an 89. My bike has an HLE frame. HLE replaced carbolite on Peugeot's entry level bikes.

It's nothing particularly special, but I like it ;-)
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Yea, i cut the derailleur hanger off, along with removing the cable guides from the top of the top tube, and the nubs where the shifters used to go. You can see the spots where i used the dremel to grind them off.

So an 1989 Peugeot HLE frame. what does HLE stand for?
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Yea, i cut the derailleur hanger off, along with removing the cable guides from the top of the top tube, and the nubs where the shifters used to go. You can see the spots where i used the dremel to grind them off.

So an 1989 Peugeot HLE frame. what does HLE stand for?
Haute Limite Elastique ;-)

I believe it's a bit stiffer than what it replaced.

The cable guides and shifters are in the same place on my bike. I can't tell from the picture of your frame but on my bike there are braze-ons for bottle cages on both the seat tube and the down tube.
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tell me what color it was to start and i'll tell if you 'torched' an HLE frame or if you torched 'Reynolds' frame....
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Ya, this sounds pretty high-end with all the "goodies" on it the OP describes!
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Haute Limite Elastique ;-)

I believe it's a bit stiffer than what it replaced.

The cable guides and shifters are in the same place on my bike. I can't tell from the picture of your frame but on my bike there are braze-ons for bottle cages on both the seat tube and the down tube.
Yup youre right.. those came off too, and the wholes that were left are going to be filled hopefully. So what model/year is your bike?

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tell me what color it was to start and i'll tell if you 'torched' an HLE frame or if you torched 'Reynolds' frame....
As you can tell from the picture the finish was in pretty rough shape. It looked like it had been painted over at least a couple times. From what i could see the original color was either a light seafoamy blue, or a light seafoamy green..

does that help? am I being scolded for my ignorance? hah... im innocent first time builder i swear.
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It would have made a nice peugeot before you did all the "improvements"
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Yup youre right.. those came off too, and the wholes that were left are going to be filled hopefully. So what model/year is your bike?
'87 or '88
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"Nice Peugeot" is an oxymoron.
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As you can tell from the picture the finish was in pretty rough shape. It looked like it had been painted over at least a couple times. From what i could see the original color was either a light seafoamy blue, or a light seafoamy green..

does that help? am I being scolded for my ignorance? hah... im innocent first time builder i swear.
I could be wrong but I think you're being scolded for cutting pieces off ;-) If it turns out to be a Reynolds frame, -well, some would rather see those restored closer to their original state.

Fixies are very common around here. Most folks leave the cable guides and such on, but then they often leave the battered finish too. Makes them less of target for thieves and adds to the badass mystique.
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