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Old 07-26-07, 02:55 PM   #1
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French "Tour de France", Ummm not Gitane?

I thought Jeunet made a TdF, but this bike doesn't look good enough to be a Jeunet

No metal headbadge, all decals, Campy shifters, and a pentagon braze-on is definitely in the Gitane tradition though...

Did somebody else in France make a TdF cuz' this looks nothing like my '72 Gitane TdF?

What the heck is it?

Please talk me out of restoring it guys...

Bizarre mix of Campagnolo, Simplex, Mafac, Pivo, and the sweet high flange hub is simply stamped "Made in Italy" so I don't know if they are Campy or Ofmega?

Only marking/stamp on the whole bike is on the L rear drop : "87 5" but come on, no way this is late 80's...

Nothing legible on decal... "....Fried Industri'es Internatioanl.... M.....SE"

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http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1415.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1413.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1414.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1416.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1418.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1417.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1419.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...2/CIMG1411.jpg


Finally, what's with that crazy drilled bracket on the Mafac Racers ?


I sure do know how to pick em'

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Based on the outline of the decal on the fork, it's clearly a Pontiac, - maybe a TransAm or something.
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I'll swap you my Louison Bobet for it
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Back in the late 60's a friend of mine had a pretty basic bike (hi-ten tubing, cottered steel nervar cranks, etc) that was marked only as "Tour de France". Basic pre-bike boom bike.
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Headbadge says "Monde" or "Mondo." But it looks like there's more-- "Le Monde"? Makes sense, what with the world flags motif.

Nothing on Sheldon's site, so I'm guessing low-end French bike boom...
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Headbadge says "Monde" or "Mondo." But it looks like there's more-- "Le Monde"? Makes sense, what with the world flags motif.

Nothing on Sheldon's site, so I'm guessing low-end French bike boom...
Thanks Blue Order,
The decal on the head tube states "Champion" on top and "Du Monde" on the bottom....
(Also, head tube is stamped "BCM". Bacoma lugs I guess...??)


I guess the actual brand name could be "Champion Du Monde"
Obviously didn't do too well I guess....That or Gitane told them to knock it off with the copyright infringement

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It's just a french cheapie. Or I guess I should say:cheepey. Go ahead and restore it if you want.
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Bump..

So how did the story end??
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A very nice Tour de France http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...arly70sTdF.htm

more info. here http://www.gitaneusa.com/models.asp


A very cheap Gitane I found in the trash. It is an excellent example of a bicycle that did not need to be restored but instead could find new life as a fixed/singlespeed conversion.

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Finally, what's with that crazy drilled bracket on the Mafac Racers ?


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That is a brake booster. It stiffened the brakes, increasing braking power.

No offense, but focused pictures help in identifying bikes.
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So how did the story end??
A very nice young man purchased it as a project bike. I believe that he rattle-canned it, upgraded the wheels and is using it as a fixed-commuter
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bbattle,

I hope you saved that awesome bottle cage.

Not to start another fixed vs. anti-fixed war, but it's the less spectacular parts of history that intrest me, and as soon as the factory parts are discarded, and the rattle cans come out. Some things you can never get back, once they are gone....thats it.

I'm a preservationist, thats what I do, I'm also a student of history, I know that you can't save everything, but the whole fixed trend goes against everything I believe in.


Five years from now, most of the hipsters will have moved on, and we will all be dealing with a bunch on unidentifiable stripped frames.
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bbattle,

I hope you saved that awesome bottle cage.

Not to start another fixed vs. anti-fixed war, but it's the less spectacular parts of history that intrest me, and as soon as the factory parts are discarded, and the rattle cans come out. Some things you can never get back, once they are gone....thats it.

I'm a preservationist, thats what I do, I'm also a student of history, I know that you can't save everything, but the whole fixed trend goes against everything I believe in.


Five years from now, most of the hipsters will have moved on, and we will all be dealing with a bunch on unidentifiable stripped frames.

I hear what you are saying RNW, I honestly do.

But it was a fairly sweet butted frame with missing and odd parts and I cant dictate to the market. And I don't want to dictate to a nice young guy with a tight budget either. Keep in mind that if he uses it every day/ or even few days per week, then we are all breathing easier with a few less emissions from his vehicle... I suspect that it gets used daily...

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A very cheap Gitane I found in the trash. It is an excellent example of a bicycle that did not need to be restored but instead could find new life as a fixed/singlespeed conversion.
No!!! No!!! No!!!

Underneath all that dirt is a very nice base model Gitane. DO NOT convert it into a fixie, sell it to a college student who would probably do the same thing to it, etc. It deserves much better for having survived this long.

What's the frame size?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bbattle,

I hope you saved that awesome bottle cage.

Not to start another fixed vs. anti-fixed war, but it's the less spectacular parts of history that intrest me, and as soon as the factory parts are discarded, and the rattle cans come out. Some things you can never get back, once they are gone....thats it.

I'm a preservationist, thats what I do, I'm also a student of history, I know that you can't save everything, but the whole fixed trend goes against everything I believe in.


Five years from now, most of the hipsters will have moved on, and we will all be dealing with a bunch on unidentifiable stripped frames.
Aaron,

Bingo! Everybody and their brothers are going to save the 531/Columbus/Vitus/whatever tubed bikes. Who's going to save the nice base model bike boom bikes?

Unfortunately bloody few people it seems.

I'm always on the lookout for something like that. Poguemahone turned me on to a beautiful Magneet that's restored, period upgraded, and in current rotation with the rest of the garage - paint a decals intact.
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Sykerocker,

I'm working on a web page, I hope to get it going within the next few weeks. What I want to do, is mirror Classicrendezvous, but focus on the basic Bike Boom 10 speeds. I think some models, like the Peugeot UO/UE's are begining to be appriciated. But we have a long way to go.

Just me, I think that green Gitane is exactly the bike that should be saved, 35+ years old and untouched. It was a survivor. There are plenty of better fixed canidates around.
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A very cheap Gitane I found in the trash.
BBattle, you take GREEEAT pictures!

Could you do me a HUUUUGE favor?
I would like some more close-ups of the decals!

The one you posted of the fork leg decal is perfect.
The downtube shot could be closer.

Also any others that are legible, which looks like ALL of them.

I have a couple of Gitane tandems and those would be perfect to create the art from.

Then JR can print some primo repro's for me!

Thank you soooo much!

Just curious, what camera are you using for great shots like that?

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Please talk me out of restoring it guys...

Finally, what's with that crazy drilled bracket on the Mafac Racers ?
DON'T RESTORE IT! ...PART IT OUT!

(and PLEASE send me that crazy drilled bracket! Pleeeease!)

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That is a brake booster. It stiffened the brakes, increasing braking power.
I got bored last winter and made one up for my Atala:



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No!!! No!!! No!!!

Underneath all that dirt is a very nice base model Gitane. DO NOT convert it into a fixie, sell it to a college student who would probably do the same thing to it, etc. It deserves much better for having survived this long.

What's the frame size?
It WAS a 54-55cm, gaspipe heavier than lead tubing with a very dead feel to it frame, el-cheapo plastic body derailleurs, plastic shifters, cheap flexy chainrings. It would've been too expensive to restore it so I gave it to a wrench at the LBS who in turn gave it to a friend who converted it to singlespeed. I saw a picture of it, it looked very nice in Molteni orange.

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BBattle, you take GREEEAT pictures!

Could you do me a HUUUUGE favor?
I would like some more close-ups of the decals!

The one you posted of the fork leg decal is perfect.
The downtube shot could be closer.

Also any others that are legible, which looks like ALL of them.

I have a couple of Gitane tandems and those would be perfect to create the art from.

Then JR can print some primo repro's for me!

Thank you soooo much!

Just curious, what camera are you using for great shots like that?

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I used a 3 megapixel Olympus that lately takes good pics about 50% of the time. I've got a new Kodak that's much better.

I found that Gitane several months ago. I can ask and see if any of the parts were saved and if I can have them. I'll gladly send them to whomever claims them first. But the bike has been repainted and all the decals are gone. Photoshop may be able to sharpen that fuzzy one up for you.
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