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    Colnago Mexico Oro

    I picked up what I think to be a Colnago Mexico Oro today that needs a respray and would like to know if someone knows where I can have it resprayed for a fair price. Also, the whole frame seems to have been "gold plated" and I would like to know the process. The fork use to be all gold along with the seat stays and the chain stays. I would hate to paint it myself as it would not make the frame seem as beautiful as it is. Here are some pics of the frame set. Also, what year is it? I will post the serial number in the morning since I just got finished drinking a dozen to many Chimay Blues.
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    Looks like a lot of that plating has flaked off, am I right? Our own Dr. Deltron can certainly do the paint. If You want to get it redone I would either paint the whole thing (most affordable). Rechroming and the gold plating will be expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    Looks like a lot of that plating has flaked off, am I right? Our own Dr. Deltron can certainly do the paint. If You want to get it redone I would either paint the whole thing (most affordable). Rechroming and the gold plating will be expensive.

    You are correct; most of the plating has flaked off. What would be the going price be to have it rechromed and gold plated? I will be selling some components I have to have it redone, but I have no idea what the price would be. As for Dr. Deltron, I posted a question on his thread about painting a few weeks back and got no response on a Peugeot that I'm redoing. I guess he must me really busy since the examples of his work I've seen are super bad ass. I'll most likely send him a PM. Thanks for that tip. I really have to get to bed. It's 2:10 am here and I'm literally **** faced.

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    haha... well you must not be in north america then... Here the going rate for a good repaint and decals is about $600US for a single colour! We're talkin' professional quality wet paint/ Chrome I don't know. I am guessing it would be around $1500-2000 to get it redone at a one stop shop like cycle arts. However, I found a local chrome would do a bike for around $200-300. Problem is I don't think they are fully qualified or perhaps they just aren't aware (even if you tell them) of the fragility of a vintage lightweight. To them it's a tough hunk of metal, we know it is a precision crafted machine. They have to do a lot of buffing and that can add heat and if they push to hard then pow you get your frame back all nicely out of alignment. If I ever have the disposable income I'll go with a pro. That being said marinoni will repaint and chrome their own product for around $500CND.
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    Shame that that gold has flaked off, but I'd guess it was doomed to not stick well to a chrome (or nickel) under-plate. One option to consider: gilding. It's not going to look as smooth or even as a thin gold plating, but it IS real 23k gold (and not "gold" paint) and I *think* it's easier to find a qualified gilder (who'll take care of your cherished frame) than a chrome shop who can do high-quality gold plating at this size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    haha... well you must not be in north america then... Here the going rate for a good repaint and decals is about $600US for a single colour! We're talkin' professional quality wet paint/ Chrome I don't know. I am guessing it would be around $1500-2000 to get it redone at a one stop shop like cycle arts. However, I found a local chrome would do a bike for around $200-300. Problem is I don't think they are fully qualified or perhaps they just aren't aware (even if you tell them) of the fragility of a vintage lightweight. To them it's a tough hunk of metal, we know it is a precision crafted machine. They have to do a lot of buffing and that can add heat and if they push to hard then pow you get your frame back all nicely out of alignment. If I ever have the disposable income I'll go with a pro. That being said marinoni will repaint and chrome their own product for around $500CND.

    I am leaning towards having the whole frame painted but would that be "short changing" the frame, since it would obvious look better with the gold? Or should I paint the whole frame but just rechrome or gold plate the fork? Would that help keep the cost down? Thanks for you help.

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    It must have been quite a bike when it was built. The original owner really got something special and it must have been quite expensive. It makes you wonder how it came to be in that condition.

    Luckily you came along and could see beyond the present condition. Well done. (I'd try my best to go with the gold - money may come with time.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Fountain View Post
    It must have been quite a bike when it was built. The original owner really got something special and it must have been quite expensive. It makes you wonder how it came to be in that condition.

    Luckily you came along and could see beyond the present condition. Well done. (I'd try my best to go with the gold - money may come with time.)
    I got the frame set for 83 Euro ($113 US). The guy I got it from said it was his friend who gave it to him, which he planned to build up. but for whatever reason never got around to it. It seems he has too many bikes and just can't keep up with them all. This guy has a NOS Gios 40th annivesary and a whole bunch of other super nice bikes. He said that this Colnago was already in that condition when it was given to him. I really would like to go gold with it but I also really want to build it so I can ride it and the money issue won't improve unless Uncle Sam gives us a huge raise. I'm thinking about just going Blue with a chrome fork for now and then later in the future doing it "proper". But who knows. I'm going to ask around here in Belgium to see what the going price is to have it Plated. Heck I might look into sending it to Colnago since I know it costs 170 Euro to send inn a bike to Merckx and have it repainted with decals. Hopefully (down on kness praying) Colnago is in the same ballpark as Merckx.

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    Ask around at local shops to find a good painter. You'll probably find that the same name keeps on coming up, go to that guy.

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    Another quick question: Is it normal for Colnago forks to have the Columbus insignia stamped on them along with the Serial number? The Serial number on both the frame and fork is H32. What year was this frame made? I'm thinking 84/85. Thanks.

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    ^^
    On Colnago frames the serial number is usually found on the drop-out, not on the BB shell. Where did you find the number you posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
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    On Colnago frames the serial number is usually found on the drop-out, not on the BB shell. Where did you find the number you posted?
    Hey man. I just sent you a PM. The serial number is on the drop out and on the fork.

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    h32 sounds reasonable for a colnago serial number; unfortunately I've never been able to make heads or tails of the sequences. The frames were made by several shops starting in the late 70's, and some people think that the builder is encoded in the letter initial. Absolutely hearsay, though. The dove is usually stamped on the steerer tube, but is often very hard to find, on columbus fork materials. I think Jack from Franklin Frames quoted me $100 to have a fork chromed. He has a plater that he works with, and he does all of the prep work and polish. Gold plate, though, I dunno...

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    I was able to find that dove on the fork and was just curious. Darn, I guess I really won't know when this frame was made. Then again, who cares; it's a Colnago. I'll check with Franklin Frames on a quote on having the fork chromed or gold plated. I wish I was in Cali, since I know alot of people in the lowrider scene which I know could get a deal on having this frame gold plated. On the other if I were in Cali I would of never of gotten the frame.
    Quote Originally Posted by luker View Post
    h32 sounds reasonable for a colnago serial number; unfortunately I've never been able to make heads or tails of the sequences. The frames were made by several shops starting in the late 70's, and some people think that the builder is encoded in the letter initial. Absolutely hearsay, though. The dove is usually stamped on the steerer tube, but is often very hard to find, on columbus fork materials. I think Jack from Franklin Frames quoted me $100 to have a fork chromed. He has a plater that he works with, and he does all of the prep work and polish. Gold plate, though, I dunno...

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