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Old 07-29-07, 08:07 PM   #1
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Schwinn Super Sport year

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Tried posting in another part of this forum and NO response - so I thought I'd try here too. Also curious if there is a way to find these older components (RX100) if anything needs to be replaced...THANKS!

I am looking for more information about a used Schwinn Super Sport I just picked up - I thought it was from around 2000 but now I am not sure.

It has Shimano RX100 components with STI shifting (on the brake levers). The levers say RSX, so I suppose that is a lower component group for that part. The paint is all red with black lettering. It has 700x23 wheels.

Is there any way to track down more information about this bike? I know with other brands there are extensive resources online (like vintage trek).

Also one lever/hood has been pushed so it is a bit crooked (maybe banged up a little). It works fine, but I am having the handlebars re-wrapped - will it be a major problem for them to straighten that out too??

I do not have any pictures of it yet, but I can take some if needed to help identify. Is there a serial number somewhere that would give a clue? EDIT - I think I have a serial number if it helps...

I would really appreciate any info as I am trying to make sure it is a good investment as an "around town lockable" bike before I go all out on a new one if needed.

Any idea on the value of this bike would be helpful too - Just needs a new chain for sure, but in decent shape so I was wondering what the value is (was probably only around 700 new as an entry level Schwinn).

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Roadsport--first off, we always need photos. A good clear photo of the headbadge will help us if it's a vintage bike. There should be a number stamped in the headbadge--do you know what it is?

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With RX100, it's probably an aluminum frame from the post bankruptcy late nineties Scott Sport period.

HERE's the 1996 Super Sport with RX100.

There's lots of pre-bankruptcy (1993 and before) Schwinn literature on the net SEE LINKS HERE, but not too much for products after 1993.
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I had a feeling there was no headbadge (but I am not the Schwinn expert!).

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Happy I can help.

Since roadsport says it's red, it's probably a 1998 (actually, metallic orange).



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Thanks for the replies - just checked in now...

Yes there is a number stamped (where it says Schwinn Quality), but I was confused - somewhere I read something about the last number being from the year? So the stamp says "1797" which would make it a 1997? I thought it was from around 2000 (neighbor that sold it said it was) so that would be pretty far off.

Serial number, if that'shat it is under the cranks, starts with TL.

I have attached a photo (not the best one), but I can see how it looks like the "orange" one pictured above.

I can take a photo of anything else too if needed. It did NOT come with any fancy pedals at all! Regular plastic pedals, so those are one of the first things to go (I can barely keep my feet on them - I'm used to toe clips from my mountain bike).

I am a little bummed that it seems to be older than once thought but I purchased it to get into biking (my first road bike). Does it seem like a good one for that purpose? I thought it was - maybe it's not worth it, but I'm going to try to get it tuned up, new chain, re-wrap the handlebars with gel/cork, straighten out the lever and hope to ride it for a long time.

Are the components decent? Better than I would get if I purchased an entry level with low end Sora or something like that?

I'd appreciate the thoughts. Any idea what it would be worth?

Will it be a problem to straighten out the lever when they remove the old wrap??

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Jen,

Based on the digits stamped into the headbadge, the build date for your bike was the 179th day of 1997. This may sound strange, but I don't think of a 1997 bike as being "old"...

It's definitely worth fixing up and riding. The components are low to mid-level as is appropriate for an entry level road bike, but they should function just fine once the bike is tuned up and the derailleurs/brakes are properly adjusted. If the lever works but is a little crooked on the handlebar, straightening it out should only take a couple of minutes once the bar tape is off. Regarding the pedals, it's quite likely the previous owner took the pedals off and put some cheap ones on to sell it. Pedals are sort of personal, so that would not be unusual.

I'm sorry, but I don't have a clue what your bike is worth. Fix it up and ride it! The 30/42/50T triple and the 13-26T seven speed cassette will offer you a nice wide gearing range.
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Old 07-30-07, 08:27 PM   #8
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Thanks Stan!

I didn't mean it was old as a 1997 - just a big difference between 97 and 2000 to me. It is actually JUST what I was looking for (if it won't cost too much to fix up that is).

I wanted a used one to start off with so I can lock it up and not worry about it. Obviously I don't want it to get stolen, but with the option of buying a $1000 new bike no one wanted me to lock it up so I could not buy new as an "around town" bike.

I'm glad you say it's worth it (I guess that could be an opinion so some may disagree) - I just worried that it was too low end/older and would not be worth the investment. I think it's a great bike personally (isn't that all that matters?!).

I don't think the previous owner had a clue - or was the first owner so it's possible the pedals were gone before he got it too. I am unsure of what to get for pedals.

I know I want something, but never done clipless, so considering toe clips or a combo pedal/clipless set until I am used to clipless? Any thoughts would be appreciated. I worry about clipless (because I've never used them and I don't know what style to get) but these pedals do me no good as I'm trying to learn how to ride this bike!

I didn't mean to ask about value in that way - just that I paid $100 for it and I think that's pretty great for a decent "beater" (I almost can't think of it that way since it's "new" to me!). It's a good bike!

It will cost me for a tune up, new chain, wrap and maybe new cables...I hope there is nothing major wrong with it (I did get it checked out before I bought it, but you never know). So it IS an investment since I also have to buy pedals/shoes/good helmet (this is faster than my mountain bike and I worry more about falling!) and I will add a computer...Just thought it was a good deal and wondered if I was okay thinking that! I would have to buy most of that stuff anyway, but I am putting more money into the bike than what I paid for it right from the start with the tune up and the few parts.

Thank you so much for the info - especially about the lever too - I worried that it would be a hassle to straighten but with re-wrapping it I thought it should be okay. I can use it but it's weird in the bent position. Scraped up but appears to have no real damage to it. He probably dropped it.

Any input about which pedals or style to try as my first set would be appreciated (or if I should go with toe clips maybe?).

Any idea on if these type of parts (the RX100 or RSX levers) would be available anywhere in particular, or is ebay the only option? Just wondering if it would be possible to find them without having to buy very expensive components if anything needs to be replaced...also wouldn't want to downgrade if Sora or the level below that is not expensive but not as well made as the ones I already have.

The links provided were great! Before I searched and searched and found nothing. I did not see anything for 1997 on the site - I would love to see it in a catalog if there is one from that year...??

Thank you so much for the time and input. I really appreciate it!

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Jen,

If you're uncomfortable with clipless pedals, just buy some MKS Sylvan Road or touring Pedals and mount some Soma or MKS toe clips and leather straps on them. Many local bike shops carry the MKS pedals, and they're what I use on my embarassingly expensive Waterford.

I looked at my 1997 Schwinn catalog and it shows the Super Sport with the same polished aluminum frame I linked to in the 1996 catalog. The '98 catalog is the first to show the metallic orange painted frame with the script "Schwinn" on the down tube. It's possible they changed from polished aluminum to the metallic orange painted frame mid-year 1997.

You certainly got your money's worth for $100; in fact, that's quite a bargain IMHO.
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Jen, I can't add much to Scooper's comments--he IS the expert. But it sounds as if you got a bargain, you're happy with the bike, and we hope you'll be back .

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Old 07-31-07, 02:43 PM   #11
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Stan and East Hill,

Thank you!

Stan thanks for the pedal advice - never tried clipless so I'm thinking the toe-clip baskets may be a good way to start. I actually might see if REI has the clips and straps together for a few dollars and mount it on the plastic pedals the bike came with - just so I can ride it for a bit after the tune up. I'll have to look into the ones you sent me via the link...I had never seen them so I will look into that and some clipless/shoe options too. The shoes are a whole other story - no idea what to do with those but looking at some good sales that bring them to $100 or less.

I am very excited to have the bike! For $100 I think it is awesome to get it going and learn how (literally) to ride a road bike. It is so much different from my "monster" of a mountain bike (call it that because it weighs a ton). I just picked up the parts at Performance so when it is tuned this week they will put on a new chain and re-wrap the bars (hopefully straigten out that lever!).

I also bought a wireless computer on a great sale and a pair of bike shorts (all that is new too). All I need is a nice helmet (Performance has some Giro's on closeout/sale for around $90...thinking about one of those).

I need to find a good saddle to replace this one that it has now (ouch). I will try it with the padded shorts to see if I can take it for a while, but I really need to figure out what kind of decent one I can get (Serfas, $45?) that will not cause so much ouch but not break the bank! (remember I'm not racing here).

Wish me luck on the tune up - hope to go on a nice long ride by the end of the week!!

Thanks again - I am ready to ride

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Unless you are doing some high performance riding you don't need all that expensive gear. I use the MKS Sylvan touring pedals on all my bikes(except the French ones which get Lyotard 460d, which the MKS pedal is a knockoff of). I use them without clips or straps. Sure I lose a little bit of efficiency without them, but I love the convenience of being able to just set my foot on the pedal and go, especially in the city. I still pass more people than pass me. I also just use "normal" shorts and shoes. No circus clothes for me. Am I a fred?...I guess so, but I still pass more people than pass me!

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Thanks for the input - I had been riding with toe clips (baskets) for years with the mountain bike, so the slippery plastic pedals (they felt slippery to me - maybe all mental) have not been working well!

I just added clips and straps for $6 to the pedals it had - I am not sure they will clear the wheel when it moves so that may not be an option for very long if it would make me crash...Not sure if road shoes in clipless pedals would be any different - would they stick out as much and cause an issue?? It is the basket that does not clear.

At any rate that was the quickest way for me to try it out so we'll see how it goes...Probably go clipless eventually for my own growth in trying out the road biking all the way.

As far as the rest of the gear - Shorts were $20 with padding because of the ouch factor of this saddle so more of a temporary solution before I find a new saddle. I am not into dressing like I'm riding a race, but for comfort those seemed like the best way to go for now. Otherwise I'm all regular clothes too Believe me - I'll look silly, but if I can ride longer and be more comfortable, I'm all for it!!

I will be riding and enjoying it as soon as I get the all-clear from the tune-up etc...Don't want it falling apart on me!
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Jen,

I'm not certain what kind of clipless pedals were on the bike, but I'll give a ringing endorsement for Shimano SPD pedals. While mainly for the MTB side of riding, they make a road version and a sort of quill version with a clip on one side and regular on the other, the 324. Clipping in and out is easy. I've never fallen nor found myself in a panic situation. My feet stay positioned on the pedals very nicely and MTB shoes let the cleat be recessed into the tread for easy walking. Clipless cycle shoes (at least ones with SPD cleats) make pedaling very efficient, and IMO, significantly safer than toe clips. Here's a picture of the regular side of the 324 pedal on my Continental. Best of luck.
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for comfort those seemed like the best way to go for now.
Agreed. I have padded bicycling shorts also which I will wear if I am going over 50 miles. I just rarely ride that far.

Sorry for the strong opinions. I guess I was feeling a little cranky last night after a long day of work which included 525 miles of driving. Best of luck with your bike. I think you will like it. My wife has a slightly newer version(Y2K) which is essentially the same bike although I upgraded it to Shimano 105 9 speed. I have the version with Reynolds 853 frame tubing. We both like them a lot.

As the good Pastor said, the clipless pedals might be safer than the cage & strap rat trap type. I just put the Sylvan touring pedals on my wife's bike after she took a fall from having her foot caught in the traps at a stop sign. She is not sure she likes them. She likes the added efficiency of being connected to the pedals. I am just not in the habit of riding like that, so I don't miss it. Each to their own.
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Your Super Sport seems to be a bargain for $100. The RSX 7 speed shifters alone can go for close to $100 if their in good shape.

On a similar note, I just picked up a cromoly Schwinn Passage frame on ebay. I'm planning on building up a road bike for the wife. Seller said it was from 99-00 model year. I have a complete Shimano RSX triple group that I'll hang on it to make a nice sport tourer. I will also go with the MKS touring pedals and chrome half clips, because thats what the wife is most comfortable with.

Scooper, do you or anyone else have any Schwinn literature or specifications on this model? The frame has a butted cromoly sticker but I'm curious what material is used for the fork. TIA.
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I believe it's a 1997 model. All the 1997 Passage specs have to say about the fork is "Cro-Moly Uni-Crown with Eyelets"...

1997 Schwinn Passage

Color: Metallic Blue
Sizes: 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60cm
Frame: Schwinn Road Design Full Cro-Moly, Outer Butted Seat Tube, Forged Dropouts, Double Water Bottle Mounts, Eyelets
Fork: Cro-Moly Uni-Crown with Eyelets
Headset: Tioga SE-II Steel
Crankset: Shimano RSX 46/36/26T
F/R Derailleurs: Shimano RSX
Shifters: Shimano RSX Dual Control STI
Freewheel: Shimano HG 11-24, 7-Speed
Pedals/Clips: Steel cage/Alloy Body, Clips and Straps
Brakes/Levers: Shimano RSX
Handlebar: Alloy Drop Bars
Stem: Road Cro-Moly 90 Degree Rise
Hubs: Front: Formula Alloy, 32H, Q/R; Rear: Shimano Acera X, 32H, Q/R
Rims: Mavic CXP-10 Double-Wall Alloy
Spokes: 14G Stainless Steel
Tires: Schwinn 700 x 25
Saddle: Schwinn Rooad Comfort Saddle
Seatpost: SP-51 Zoom Micro Adjustable
Extras: Alloy Seat Clamp, Cork Tape, Clear Coat, Chainstay Protector


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Thanks a bunch Scooper. You are a bicycle humanitarian!

At least a generic mfg. description confirms that its a cromoly fork. Also nice to know that I'm on the right track hanging the RSX on it. Should make a nice rider for the wife.

Thanks again.
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