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Old 07-30-07, 03:45 PM   #1
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Trip to the paint $tore!!!

Having been given a Sikkens mixing system, I was a little unprepared for the refill$!

So here is what I got;

Qt 766 = $102.75
Qt 232 = $112.25
Qt 678 = $112.75
Gal FAST Reducer = $80.50

+ Tax. For a grand total of $437.31!

And I passed (temporarily) on the gallon of 120 white. ($330+tax)

Just thought I'd share that, in case some of you thought my painting prices were "high".
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Old 07-30-07, 04:18 PM   #2
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Actually, I think your prices are great. It's the wife I must convince. I'll be keeping in touch with you.
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Old 07-30-07, 04:52 PM   #3
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Having been given a Sikkens mixing system, I was a little unprepared for the refill$!
Kinda like cheap printers. They soak you on the ink!
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I have been buyig paint periodically from my local auto paint house, the prices have been rising steadily for the last two years.

Just wait til you price Red, a bright red. You will want to buy a half pint.
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I have been buyig paint periodically from my local auto paint house, the prices have been rising steadily for the last two years.

Just wait til you price Red, a bright red. You will want to buy a half pint.
Just curious Dr. D, is the red for my Super Sport in one of those quarts? If so I suppose I need to send a few more $$$. If not I might need to send even more!
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I guess I'd better send you my Gitane before the price goes up.
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We just got a notice recently at the auto parts store. Dupont is going up, or already has, gone up in price considerably. People are already buying our cheaper lines and single stage unless they are established shops. It's getting pretty bad, for sure.,,,,BD

Red has always been the highest. Very high pigment content, since it's so transparent. Using a red or white primer will increase coverage.
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I've never heard that using white primer under red increases coverage, but it sure increases brightness.
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It's not just the paint thats "high".
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Just curious Dr. D, is the red for my Super Sport in one of those quarts?
YES! The middle one. (red transparent)
But that is only one part of the recipe. (one that I was out of)

Once the "color" is mixed, another component is added to make it basecoat.

Then that mixture is "reduced" to make it sprayable.

No worries PB, I won't use anywhere near the whole quart on your bike!
More like 2-3 OUNCES!
Had to have some for East Hill's mixte too! So that quart will last me at least a little while.
It's the $330 gallon* of Intense White that I have to finance next, that's gonna do me in with the wife!
Maybe I should charge for labor too??

*It's such a common ingredient that they only sell it in GALLONS!
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I've never heard that using white primer under red increases coverage, but it sure increases brightness.
True, but it also makes it easier to cover, and get the desired brightness faster than painting over black, or orange brown primer. You'd have to shoot more coats to hide the darker primer, and build the brightness by quantity of paint. 6 of one, half dozen of the other I guess?,,,,BD
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I think I recognize those forks. Sorry.
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True, but it also makes it easier to cover, and get the desired brightness faster than painting over black, or orange brown primer. You'd have to shoot more coats to hide the darker primer, and build the brightness by quantity of paint. 6 of one, half dozen of the other I guess?,,,,BD

I follow what you're saying.

The trouble with red over white is that chips and scratches are really obvious.
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Oh yeah, you got that right. I think my red Le Tour was shot white at the factory, to save money on the red paint. Every chip on the thing glares at you. I have another bike like that, but I can't remember which one?,,,,BD


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I think I recognize those forks. Sorry.
WOW! Keen eye!
That IS the steer tube of your Raleigh fork in the rack (the blue one)
The chrome looking one is a Rock Lobster fork.
The fork legs straddling the two forks in the rack is PastorBobs Super Sport fork.
The fork behind the quarts is Cyclotoines Corky fork.
The fork in the foreground is East Hills mixte fork.

Forkin' A, man. I better get out of here and GO PAINT!
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Had to have some for East Hill's mixte too! So that quart will last me at least a little while.
Oh, you had me worried! Of course, I'm still working on parts for the build (I need to remember to ask you what I still need to get ).

Do I need to send more money?

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WOW! Keen eye!
That IS the steer tube of your Raleigh fork in the rack (the blue one)
The chrome looking one is a Rock Lobster fork.
The fork legs straddling the two forks in the rack is PastorBobs Super Sport fork.
The fork behind the quarts is Cyclotoines Corky fork.
The fork in the foreground is East Hills mixte fork.

Forkin' A, man. I better get out of here and GO PAINT!
USA Zorro, you do have a keen eye. I noticed your fork in the foreground, but didn't notice any other fork in the entire picture. Mine has really long chrome socks! I had no idea!
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Oh, you had me worried! Of course, I'm still working on parts for the build (I need to remember to ask you what I still need to get ).

Do I need to send more money?

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OK Margaret, time to pony-up! Dr.D needs our support so Ms. Dr.D stays happy. BTW, what kind of parts are you looking for?
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OK Margaret, time to pony-up! Dr.D needs our support so Ms. Dr.D stays happy. BTW, what kind of parts are you looking for?
I know I need a drivetrain--Dr. D's got Campy on his mind....it is very important to keep everyone happy , we can't afford to lose our in-house painter.

As I said, I need to refresh myself on the inventory. Cyclotoine was very helpful at supplying quite a few parts, but I forget what I still need!

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USA Zorro, you do have a keen eye. I noticed your fork in the foreground, but didn't notice any other fork in the entire picture. Mine has really long chrome socks! I had no idea!
Keen eye? More like I guessed 100% wrong.
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Rev. Schwinn did you want to superprice your paint job with decals? JR.
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Uumm,..JR..the Super Sport decal order IS for Rev. Schwinn!
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I know I need a drivetrain--Dr. D's got Campy on his mind....it is very important to keep everyone happy , we can't afford to lose our in-house painter.

As I said, I need to refresh myself on the inventory. Cyclotoine was very helpful at supplying quite a few parts, but I forget what I still need!

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Well I know she has front and rear derailleurs, shifters, a stem, brake calipers.... and maybe cranks already?
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No, still no cranks...

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