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    Regina or Shimano

    I have two freewheels to go on one set of wheels. Neither are new (mid to late 70's) but they are but in very good condition: 1)Regina Oro 13-22 5 speed or 2)Shimano Dura Ace 13-21 5 speed. The wheels are Record laced to Wolber Super Champion Gentleman 81. I know that that would have people saying Regina, but the derailleurs and shifters are the same vintage Dura Ace. The crank and other miscellany are Campy.
    I'm thinking Regina because the wheels can be put on another bike. But, the freewheel can also be switched. So let's just call it equal.
    My question though is if anyone has experience with these freewheels and would know which performed better and was more reliable. That would be the deciding factor
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdr View Post
    I have two freewheels to go on one set of wheels. Neither are new (mid to late 70's) but they are but in very good condition: 1)Regina Oro 13-22 5 speed or 2)Shimano Dura Ace 13-21 5 speed. The wheels are Record laced to Wolber Super Champion Gentleman 81. I know that that would have people saying Regina, but the derailleurs and shifters are the same vintage Dura Ace. The crank and other miscellany are Campy.
    I'm thinking Regina because the wheels can be put on another bike. But, the freewheel can also be switched. So let's just call it equal.
    My question though is if anyone has experience with these freewheels and would know which performed better and was more reliable. That would be the deciding factor
    I will try to be objective. then again, maybe i won't (or maybe I can't)... I've ridden nothing but Regina Oro for over 30 years, but my wife has an all asian equipped bike with shi(t)mano - whoops there goes the objectivity- gearing. I'm actually taking the shimano freewheel and untraglide chain off and putting on Sachs - Sedis - SRAM for her bike.

    What chain do you have? A shimano chain will work better with a shimano freewheel, same with Regina, but others may differ on their opinion. I like the solid shifting of the Regina drivetrain. Others like the "smoothness" or the da / ug setup, but I do not.

    Regina chains are very stiff - as is not much lateral flex, makes for good shifting on a narrow ratio freewheel - which you have - but the benefits decrease if the derailleur's jockey pulley is not right next to the cogs. Dura ace is not as close as a Campy NR/SR or even early "c-record" units. If you get a NR / SR rear derailleur, i would definately recommend the Regina drivetrain stuff. If you are going to keep the DA derailleur, the DA chain / freewheel would probably work better. I have a nice pat 73 NR rear, pm me if interested.

    Basically, any combination of what you have will work.

    As far as durability, they are pretty much the same. Recent shimano stuff requirews replacing chain pins, etc., not my bag. I've never had a regina drivetrain failure. Then again my wife's (lightly ridden) bike hasn't had any problems either.

    There is a ready supply of good used and even NOS regina stuff always for sale on that auction site - but Regina stuff often gets pricey. I don't know about DA because i never look for it.

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    After 30 years of nothing but Regina and Maillard freewheels and Regina chains, I tried a Shimano Hyperglide freewheel and I'll never go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
    After 30 years of nothing but Regina and Maillard freewheels and Regina chains, I tried a Shimano Hyperglide freewheel and I'll never go back.
    Concur. It's like taking the props off aircraft. But I also like SunRace
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    The first thing that I would be doing is checking the thread standards on the hubs and freewheels. If they are all English, then my personal preference would be for the Dura-Ace over the Regina. If the hubs and Regina freewheel, are Italian,then I'd mate them together. There is only a small difference between English and Italian threading, but mixing will cause some damage to the threads and could cause problems with a very strong riding or if you are switchuing between Italian and English threaded freewheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtdrop View Post
    After 30 years of nothing but Regina and Maillard freewheels and Regina chains, I tried a Shimano Hyperglide freewheel and I'll never go back.
    Amen. I just don't tell anybody I have a Shimano freewheel. But it shifts waaay better than the Regina ever did even with my NR derailleur - no more "freewheeling".

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    Just for info, the Shimano is not HG. This is a 70's 5 speed. Friction only.
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    does the Dura-ace freewheel have the twist tooth design? If yes then I concur to go with DA because I like the way twist tooth design shifts. If it's not twist tooth than it all makes very little difference and I would base my decision on hub threading (as per T-mar's post).
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