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Old 09-21-07, 06:18 AM   #1
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toupe oddity

greetings

i got a specialized toupe a couple weeks ago, like it for the most part. something's 'come up' tho, and i'm a bit curious as to why. see, about 50% of the time, right when i get off the bike, i start to chub up some. s'right, lycra *****. wondering if perhaps it's saddle size (130), or if i'm just subconciously really impressed with myself.


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(posted in CV due to generally relaxed nature of forum, as possible reply of "just cut your junk off, it'll save x grams and make you more aero" just isn't an option.)
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Old 09-21-07, 08:06 AM   #2
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For half of what you paid for that plastic saddle you could get a Brooks. (trying to keep it classic related here)

Brooks will give you huge wood after just one ride. You will wonder you ever road anything else.
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Old 09-21-07, 08:11 AM   #3
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wow. nice. so while there's not a little concern about circulation and prostate health among cyclists, i'm a juvenile and an idiot for posing a question. i'm not a physician, and do not apologize for not phrasing the question as though i were.
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Old 09-21-07, 08:14 AM   #4
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thanks for staying in the ballpark of the issue, SF. i know folks who swear by brooks, i've just never tried one yet. btw, the toupe was a 50 bucker off ebay.
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Pumpy,

You might want to rephrase your question, might get some better responses.
as for the problem you're experiencing, I haven't had the problem myself but maybe the
toupe is cutting off circulation and when you get off the bike you get back both sensation
and blood flow and well there you go.
try adjusting your saddle so it doesn't pitch you forward as much (less pressure on perinium).

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For 50$ you still got ripped off. I mean it is a plastic saddle made in the third world. Those saddles are also known to crack on the rails...Search the road forum and you will find many people swearing they are the best saddle even on a replacement saddle. I guess the issue is weight. They are very heavy but comfy. Try the B17 and you will be shocked.
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Well Lumpy you do have a problem. May I suggest you market your saddle as an alternative to Viagra? I'll be looking for you on that 3am infomercial.
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7 posts and no demand for pictures?
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Follow up to my previous post: this goes out to East Hill: Please don't ask for pictures!
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I thought about that, but now I'll be serious.

Pumpy, let's just say that most men don't have that problem. In fact, most men seem to have the opposite problem. Lotek could be right about the cause and effect. How long have you been riding? Does this occur with just this one saddle?

I'm almost afraid to ask any more questions, but I would like to note that I think I need to get Mr. East Hill one of these .

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Move to a colder climate.
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As a 57-year-old male with 100k miles / 160k km of cycling experience, I feel qualified to comment. SoreFeet and lotek both offer good advice. I have traditional tensioned leather saddles on four bikes. My other saddle is a SERFAS ARC, which has a central depression designed to reduce pressure on the perinaeum. Do try adjusting your saddle -- a small change in height or tilt, or even fore-aft position, may make a surprisingly large difference.
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For 50$ you still got ripped off. I mean it is a plastic saddle made in the third world. Those saddles are also known to crack on the rails...Search the road forum and you will find many people swearing they are the best saddle even on a replacement saddle. I guess the issue is weight. They are very heavy but comfy. Try the B17 and you will be shocked.
Can't argue with the longevity, though my Toupe is not too old. But I think you mis-spoke, Toupe's are not heavy by any yardstick. B-17s OTOH ...

One major difference between a B-17 and any Specialized 130 is width. The width of the '17 is much more like a 155. Brooks has narrower saddles that might be a better substitute for your Toupe if you really don't like it. Another key difference is that the Specialized saddles have much more fore-aft adjustment available than the B-17. You need to get proper position with either of these saddles.

It does sound like you might be getting numbness before dismounting that you don't notice, and you might not have the right width, or the adjustment optimized.

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Pumpy, the problem is not as much that we don't want to help (the latest posts show that we do), but it would be nice if you were to re-phrase your original post in a slightly more (ahem) polite or politically correct manner, if you get what I mean.

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thanks to most, i'm looking at a brooks swift now, and if it works out i'll get another.

cudak, here you go:

upon dismounting, i've experienced marked turgidity. while undoubtedly due to blood flow, i'm curious as to whether it is the saddle, as i've not noticed this otherwise in my 26 years of cycling.

phew...sure is fun reading that.
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i do have photos of when i had a lypoma on my arse, and i'd be more than willing to post them, but i fear that would send cudak and his crew right over the edge. see, i don't take things quite that seriously.
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Pumpy...I am working on breaking in a Brooks Swift. It is a nice saddle. Make sure you are riding bull horns or in the drops frequently and you should be comfort. More upright riding would make better use of the b17. Good luck.
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I'd say that in general, this should not be happening on a regular basis. On the other hand, I have a variety of different bikes and each is set up differently and on occasion this happens to me as well, usually after a 3+ hour ride. Fortunately I have nothing to be embarrassed about but I do have concerns about its portent for the future. I just put Brooks on two of my bikes so we'll see what happens there.
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Oh no, just thinking this could be an interesting experiment .

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i do have photos of when i had a lypoma on my arse, and i'd be more than willing to post them, but i fear that would send cudak and his crew right over the edge. see, i don't take things quite that seriously.
You will soon find out that I am the official 'Where are the photos' person here in C & V. cudak888 and retyred were just teasing me...



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I thought about that, but now I'll be serious.

Pumpy, let's just say that most men don't have that problem. In fact, most men seem to have the opposite problem. Lotek could be right about the cause and effect. How long have you been riding? Does this occur with just this one saddle?

I'm almost afraid to ask any more questions, but I would like to note that I think I need to get Mr. East Hill one of these .

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