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Old 09-22-07, 11:35 AM   #1
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THE final addition...56K WARNING!

I have now entered nirvana. You are reading the words of an intensely proud new owner of a 1967 all-chrome Schwinn Paramount P-15 Tourer, serial E7009 (Ninth bike of May, 1967)

EDIT/CORRECTION: 1970 Paramount P-13, ninth bike of May, 1970.


The photos are of how I got it this morning, nothing done to it yet (have since put in an chrome Silca pump and Brooks Professional saddle):





Late '60s model with Prugnat lugs


Second-gen ('68-69) NR rear derailer


No patent date, indicating the '68-69 NR series




Enjoy. More photos to come as it gets transformed back to 100% stock configuration (sharp eyes will note the incorrect post '78 Campagnolo NR brakeset...which is available)

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Old 09-22-07, 11:37 AM   #2
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Mmmmmmm.... shiny. Gotta love the chrome!

But loose the computer, ech.
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Mmmmmmm.... shiny. Gotta love the chrome!

But loose the computer, ech.
To-Do List:

Computer - gone.
Bar tape - replace (red cotton)
Downtube decals - acquire
Pedals - Campagnolo Superleggeri (did they have them in '67? If not, it's MKS track pedals for it)
Wheelset - swap for period Weinmanns
Rear light - gone
Chrome - polish
Tires - IRC Durowinner IIs, but for the meantime, Verdestine Ricorsos
Brakeset: Weinmann 999s

-Kurt

P.S.: If anyone noticed me as being particularly antsy in the previous week, it's because I'd been worrying about whether I was going to be able to get this machine or not.
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Looking good but you should have looked at the Specialized Tarmac or Orbea bikes. They much lighter and better handling...Heheh just kidding. I had to spout some road forum rhetoric. The only thing it needs is the brooks and some fresh contintenal gatorskin tubulars. I am pretty sure you can get good reproduction or NOS brake hoods. Post pics soon when you are finished. That looks nice so far. I have soft spot in my heart for the chromed schwinns.
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It needs 10 speed Campy and a carbon fork.
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You always snag the coolest bikes. Durn you!

In all seriousness, congratulations on the find. It is a beautiful bike!
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Final addition? What no more bikes for you now? Makes me wonder what you had to do to get that one!
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Stunning.


Congrats on a great find! Care to fill us in on the "details" of your new acquisition?
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Looking good but you should have looked at the Specialized Tarmac or Orbea bikes. They much lighter and better handling...Heheh just kidding. I had to spout some road forum rhetoric. The only thing it needs is the brooks and some fresh contintenal gatorskin tubulars. I am pretty sure you can get good reproduction or NOS brake hoods. Post pics soon when you are finished. That looks nice so far. I have soft spot in my heart for the chromed schwinns.
One of the LBS' that I don't get along with sells Orbea...reason enough not to own one right there

Brooks - check. I won't use anything other then the IRC tires though - the Conti sidewalls don't do it for me (it has reasonably new Super Sports on it now - I think they make the whole package look horrible). I have sources for replacement hoods, but as the original brakeset was Weinmann, that's what will replace the Campagnolo brake levers. Not too much of a loss either, for both levers are nicked badly, one is bent, and they don't match - one is NR, the other Triomphe (figure that out).

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It needs 10 speed Campy and a carbon fork.
And if you had your way, it would be paired with a brawny road cyclist, arms crossed, standing next to it in a macho pose, right? (I saw that photo of you and the Palo Alto).

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Final addition? What no more bikes for you now? Makes me wonder what you had to do to get that one!
That's right, no more - although I might make exceptions to that all-chrome '58/9 Frejus track bike in town. Doubt if I'll ever get that one though, and it's in far worse shape then this Paramount.

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You always snag the coolest bikes. Durn you!

In all seriousness, congratulations on the find. It is a beautiful bike!
Well, the rest of them are out for your pickings now - I've officially retired from the finders circuit. Thank you for the congrats!

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Care to fill us in on the "details" of your new acquisition?
It came off of the local C-List.

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Beautiful bike! Your date is a little off. It's a 1970 bike (5th bike, May 1970).

http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/c...ara_dating.php

The Prugnat lugs were used in this era ('68-'70) before public pressure forced Schwinn to return to the Nervex.

And is it not a P-13 with the double chainring and NR rear derailleur? This year didn't have the top tube clamp on cable guides and had eyelets. I dunno ...

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Beautiful bike! Your date is a little off. It's a 1970 bike (5th bike, May 1970).

http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/c...ara_dating.php

The Prugnat lugs were used in this era ('68-'70) before public pressure forced Schwinn to return to the Nervex.

And is it not a P-13 with the double chainring and NR rear derailleur? This year didn't have the top tube clamp on cable guides and had eyelets. I dunno ...

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Just checked again - I'm still off - it's the 9th bike of May 1970 - E7009. My brain is still in the clouds with this machine.

WHOOPS! You got me on the model numbering too, it is a P-10. I never bothered to memorize the P designations before now - all I knew for certain was the P-12 (mainly due to my '61). Thanks for the clarification.

Take care,

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Actually, I think that is a Huffy that someone put Paramount stickers and counterfeit Campy components on.

Great find Kurt!

I am sure you will put it to good use...
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Your final bike?

Yeah, RIGHT! I said the same thing when I got mine!

Congratulations! It is a beauty!!!
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Mmmmmmm.... shiny. Gotta love the chrome!

But loose the computer, ech.
At least the previous owner was still riding it.
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I have sources for replacement hoods
Could you share your sources? I'm looking for some currently.

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Actually, I think that is a Huffy that someone put Paramount stickers and counterfeit Campy components on.

Great find Kurt!

I am sure you will put it to good use...
Did you say something about that Corky bike you owned for a short period of time?

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Yeah, RIGHT! I said the same thing when I got mine!
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At least the previous owner was still riding it.
As a matter of fact, he wasn't. Didn't have time for it/grew out of the messenger culture.

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Could you share your sources? I'm looking for some currently.

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That source is primarily one of the local bike shops. Now and then, a pair of levers will pop up (Campagnolo or otherwise) with a pair of early non-aero Dia-Compe Gran Compe hoods on 'em, or even a pair of Campagnolo levers with good hoods. It's hit-or-miss as to whether I stumble across them or not though.

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WOW! It's beautiful Kurt. If it looks this great now, imagine how it will look with a smoooooth set of Luxe high flange hubs and Campy SL pedals!!
Great find

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WOW! It's beautiful Kurt. If it looks this great now, imagine how it will look with a smoooooth set of Luxe high flange hubs and Campy SL pedals!!
Great find
Indeed, but it'll have to settle for Weinmann Concaves and Normandy hubs until I locate a pair of Campagnolo high-flange hubs (I do have a '63 HF front though). 27" rims would also be ultimately what I would use as well - those aren't easy to find either.

I think you'll all be very pleased with the end result.

P.S.: Took it about for its first ride this afternoon. Couldn't have been better, even with the extremely badly adjusted drivetrain and brakes. It is no doubt, a Paramount.

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Very nice!
Schwinns were not very popular where I live (there were none really) so I only get to see them on this board.
Nice indeed.
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Great Find and welcome to the Chrome Club!! If it rides like mine, you wil love it!!!!
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Kurt,

Stunning! Thanks for the early tip today about your most recent bike. You know, this makes you a 2 Paramount man. Very impressive.

Now that Bob Hufford has helped to sort out the date, maybe the Campagnolo brake calipers are correct? I believe I can help you out with pedals, even if we work out some future trade or just consider them a long term loan.
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The frame is too tall.
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Hey Kurt,

Nice bike, but I thought there was one Raleigh from '84 that you were still chasing after still too.
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Beautiful bike. I'm not even a Schwinn fan and now I want one
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Even my 2 year old went, "OOOOOO Pretty biker Daby" when it came up on the screen. She's getting her "d"s and "b"s mixed up.
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