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    We lost another soul today to plastic frame nirvana

    A fellow acquaintence I often run into at the pub today said he bought a carbon fiber Felt. He says it is a much faster bike than anything steel. He also said modern tubular glues don't hold as safe as they used to. I do believe that he is full of BS on the glue. I also know that he is faster on a lighter bike. Big whoop. He also said that my old campy record hubs werent worth any money because they were tubular. Hah!

    He has no fear of a top tube separation or cracked frame. He paid a mere 1500 for the cookie bike. What a sad loss. His vintage enthusiasm died when he bought carbon. He sold his soul to the plastic worshipping fools...

    I don't care how good or light the material is there is no point. A plastic bike can't be recycled into anything other than waste...A crappy carbolite peugeot on the other hand can still be scrapped for something useful. Steel is real and anybody who rides carbon is fake. Let the carbon riders go home to plastic trophy wives...

    I will take natural beauty and the alloy of humankind to lead me into generations of cycling without fear of top tube failure. A plastic fork will steer me away from salvation.

    May all the carbon riders on the road be damned with top tube failure. The guy went on to tell me about his riding budding cracking multiple carbon cranksets. He also said that old Suntour wasn't as tough as old campy...

    Man some people are so full of it! He also told me I paid too much for my soon to be fillet brazed bicycle.

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    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............................
    "Love is not the dying moan of a distant violin, itís the triumphant twang of a bedspring."

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    Race-o-meter:
    Broken until next season

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    I'm still upset about the switch to safety bicycles!

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    Tires stayed on ...

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    I still drive a model T because it's wood frame is far lighter than today's metal frames! Also the drive *belt* saves on weight compared to modern driveshafts, along with lighter wheels, I can smoke you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
    A fellow acquaintence I often run into at the pub today said he bought a carbon fiber Felt. He says it is a much faster bike than anything steel. He also said modern tubular glues don't hold as safe as they used to. I do believe that he is full of BS on the glue. I also know that he is faster on a lighter bike. Big whoop. He also said that my old campy record hubs werent worth any money because they were tubular. Hah!

    He has no fear of a top tube separation or cracked frame. He paid a mere 1500 for the cookie bike. What a sad loss. His vintage enthusiasm died when he bought carbon. He sold his soul to the plastic worshipping fools...

    I don't care how good or light the material is there is no point. A plastic bike can't be recycled into anything other than waste...A crappy carbolite peugeot on the other hand can still be scrapped for something useful. Steel is real and anybody who rides carbon is fake. Let the carbon riders go home to plastic trophy wives...

    I will take natural beauty and the alloy of humankind to lead me into generations of cycling without fear of top tube failure. A plastic fork will steer me away from salvation.

    May all the carbon riders on the road be damned with top tube failure. The guy went on to tell me about his riding budding cracking multiple carbon cranksets. He also said that old Suntour wasn't as tough as old campy...

    Man some people are so full of it! He also told me I paid too much for my soon to be fillet brazed bicycle.
    I love lugged steel, and my fillet brazed Schwinn SS, but I also love my carbon bike, I guess Im going to hell
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocam View Post
    heh, I like how the support bike car guy is in the background getting a new bike off the roof for him, yeah I think hes gonna need it!

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    No problem, more steel for the rest of us.

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    So he lost his enthusiasm for vintage steel? Has he got anything of interest he wants to sell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiacKid View Post
    No problem, more steel for the rest of us.
    But how many can we ride at a time?

    -Kurt

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    I'd bet the vast majority of steel bikes end up in the landfill right along with the "plastic" bikes.

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    Guys - do a search on SoreFeet's posting history before replying.

    Don't feed the troll.
    "Love is not the dying moan of a distant violin, itís the triumphant twang of a bedspring."

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    I can't believe you're on a computer and not telegraphing your message out via Morse code.

    (OK, if that's not funny I have another involving smoke signals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocam View Post
    No big deal, it looks like the cables held it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube33 View Post
    I still drive a model T because it's wood frame is far lighter than today's metal frames! Also the drive *belt* saves on weight compared to modern driveshafts, along with lighter wheels, I can smoke you!
    You could always buy a Morgan, they still like wood.

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    I actually own a 30 speed cf bike. When I am going for a long, hilly ride, I pull out the plastic. The rest of the time I prefer old steel. In truth, my Hetchins is only 2 lbs. more than my Trek. Since it only has 1 bottle holder, I save a pound there. If I exchanged saddles, the weight would be about the same.

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    You both would go faster if you stayed out of the pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogurt View Post


    I'm still upset about the switch to safety bicycles!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilmooz View Post
    I can't believe you're on a computer and not telegraphing your message out via Morse code.
    Here's SoreFeet at the keyboard:


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    Quote Originally Posted by repechage View Post
    You both would go faster if you stayed out of the pub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoreFeet
    ...A plastic fork will steer me away from salvation....
    ...and...
    Thou shall not have any other bikes before thee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CV-6 View Post
    So he lost his enthusiasm for vintage steel? Has he got anything of interest he wants to sell?

    That's the proper attitude!

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    I don't see how getting one CF bike can make you lose the love.

    I love riding CF, I love brifters. I love hot dual suspension mountain bikes with disc brakes. But those don't take away anything from my steel bikes. Playa!
    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon
    The correct response is "I live with your mom."

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    Hey, I love old steel but I also have a carbon fiber bike. Granted, it's not like most:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ightsg/002.jpg


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