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Old 09-26-07, 12:57 PM
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Question on Bottecchia Components on Professional and Giro

I have a Bottecchia Professional or Giro d'Italia frameset and I am thinking of building it up, but it is always nice to know what type of components were offered on the frame when it was first sold. I've reviewed a 1972 Bottecchia Catalog, but the component list is a little vague, e.g., "Professional tubulars," professional aluminum center pull brakes, aluminum racing model handlebars, etc. Does anyone know the components that actually came on these models? I've attached a link to the 1972 catalog.

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https://campybike.com/pdf/1972Bottecchia.pdf
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Interesting that it did came with center pull brakes with the full campy NR "everything else" group, kind of like a Raleigh International. Anyway, since centerpull brakes are specified, I am going to go out on a limb and say they were probably Universal Mod. 68's. Handlebars were most likely Cinelli, with Cinelli 1A stem, although TTT Record bars and stem can't be ruled out. And for the rims, they could be a lot of things but you could not go wrong with period correct Nisi rims (good Italian stuff).
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I had one of those white ones for a little while
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Substituting brakes on an otherwise all Campagnolo equipped bicycle was the easiest way for the designer to make a big cost reduction and have a minimal impact on performance. I wouldn't get overly anxious about the correct secondary components, as this was the period of shortages and models would come through with varying components depending on the year and availability.

However, these were the typical specs during the boom era:

Brakes were Universal 61 on both models., though I've also seen Balilla and Weinmann.
The saddle was a Unicanitor on the Professional and a leather one on the Giro, but I forget the make/model.
The handlebar stem was TTT Record on the Professional and Carnielli on the Giro
Rims were Fiamme red label on both models.
Freewheels were Regina (Oro on the Professional).

As stated, the Professional used all Campagnolo Record components with a Nuovo Record rear derailleur, except for the brakeset.

The Giro substituted a Record rear derailleur and Nuovo Tipo hubs. I believe the crankset was Magistroni. Not sure about the pedals, seat post and headset, but they were not Campagnolo.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Substituting brakes on an otherwise all Campagnolo equipped bicycle was the easiest way for the designer to make a big cost reduction and have a minimal impact on performance. I wouldn't get overly anxious about the correct secondary components, as this was the period of shortages and models would come through with varying components depending on the year and availability.

However, these were the typical specs during the boom era:

Brakes were Universal 61 on both models., though I've also seen Balilla and Weinmann.
The saddle was a Unicanitor on the Professional and a leather one on the Giro, but I forget the make/model.
The handlebar stem was TTT Record on the Professional and Carnielli on the Giro
Rims were Fiamme red label on both models.
Freewheels were Regina (Oro on the Professional).

As stated, the Professional used all Campagnolo Record components with a Nuovo Record rear derailleur, except for the brakeset.

The Giro substituted a Record rear derailleur and Nuovo Tipo hubs. I believe the crankset was Magistroni. Not sure about the pedals, seat post and headset, but they were not Campagnolo.
To add a little to what T-Mar provided, the Giro d'Italia often had a Nervar Star crankset, quill pedals and always came with the plain old steel stick seatpost. Mine has a Stronglight 49D crankset and came with Lyotard cage pedals with 14mm French threading. Despite what the catalog says, bike boom models seemed at least sometimes to come with Valentino derailleurs instead of Record as mine did. I have many pictures that I've collected off the web. Let me know if you're interested.

Here's mine, with a Brooks professional saddle, Record/Nuovo Record derailleurs. a TTT seatpost, modern Look pedals, and Rigida clincher rims for everyday riding (I have a set of Fiamme red labels in the garage). A silver Silca Impero pump is on the way.


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Originally Posted by Kommisar89
To add a little to what T-Mar provided, the Giro d'Italia often had a Nervar Star crankset, quill pedals and always came with the plain old steel stick seatpost. Mine has a Stronglight 49D crankset and came with Lyotard cage pedals with 14mm French threading. Despite what the catalog says, bike boom models seemed at least sometimes to come with Valentino derailleurs instead of Record as mine did. I have many pictures that I've collected off the web. Let me know if you're interested.

Here's mine, with a Brooks professional saddle, Record/Nuovo Record derailleurs. a TTT seatpost, modern Look pedals, and Rigida clincher rims for everyday riding (I have a set of Fiamme red labels in the garage). A silver Silca Impero pump is on the way.


Now that you mention it, I have seen them with the Nervar, though I can't say I've ever seen them with a 49D. Still, given the era, it's no surprise.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Now that you mention it, I have seen them with the Nervar, though I can't say I've ever seen them with a 49D. Still, given the era, it's no surprise.
Couldn't say 100% that it's original but that's what's on mine. And given how unusual my Special was it doesn't surprise me either. And I think it looks better But for the record, as I got it, my Giro d'Italia had a Valentino FD, Tipo hubs, the 49D crank, Lyotard cage pedals, a steel stick seat post, and a Carnielli stem that appeared to be original. It also had Dolomite steel rims in 700C, a Suntour Honour RD, Suntour barcons, and some cheap plastic saddle that I presume were not original.
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The hoods appear to be universal's so I'd lean to mod 61's as well. Not really surprising that the brakes were other than Campagnolo as the original record sidepull brakeset was the last major component to be brought into the product line. TMK, the now ubiquitous, complete single-manufacturer supplied component road gruppo didn't even exist until then and those Campy's were considered to be heinously expensive relative to the more common ( and more accepted ) centerpull Universals, Mafacs and Weinmanns, etc. that were available at the time. Even then, and for several years afterwards, the only bikes you'd see equipped with Campagnolo sidepulls were all-out, flagship full-zoot competition models.
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