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    southland?

    This is a friend of mine's bike: southland





    He wants to know more about it, history of the brand, original paint scheme, restoration tips etc.
    I told him to check CR and oldroads, any input here? Thanks -

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    There's no school like the old school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrock View Post
    There's no school like the old school.
    Or an old thread.

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    that thread was so LY.
    He actually just picked up the bike this weekend (was in storage).

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    That bike may outlive us all. Compliments to your friend, sorry that I can't shed any light on Southlands. Out of curiosity,
    what size tires are those, and do the hubs bear any markings as to manufacturer?
    Last edited by FlatTop; 10-25-07 at 11:36 AM. Reason: extreme column length

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    I'll ask him. If the tires are not size-marked, what should be measured, the rim dia. or the outer edge of the tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
    I'll ask him. If the tires are not size-marked, what should be measured, the rim dia. or the outer edge of the tire?
    I'm not 100 percent on this, but I gleaned from Sheldon Brown's fine article
    http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
    that two possibilities are 26x2.125 "balloon tire" size, fits a rim which is close to an actual 26" diameter,
    AND
    26x1.75 "middleweight" tires that fit a rim of about 25 5/8" diameter.
    Since I unfortunately can't tell you much about the bike, don't bother measuring the wheels on my behalf...
    especially since those may be the original tires!
    Last edited by FlatTop; 10-25-07 at 12:16 PM. Reason: extreme column length

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlatTop View Post
    I'm not 100 percent on this, but I gleaned from Sheldon Brown's fine article
    http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
    that two possibilities are 26x2.125 "balloon tire" size, fits a rim which is close to an actual 26" diameter,
    AND
    26x1.75 "middleweight" tires that fit a rim of about 25 5/8" diameter.
    Since I unfortunately can't tell you much about the bike, don't bother measuring the wheels on my behalf...
    especially since those may be the original tires!
    I don't think so. Those are wood rims, and "single tube" tires. Most likely designated 28 x 1 1/2". This was the standard adult size in the early part of the last century. The rim is the same size as a "modern" tubular.

    http://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#singletube

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    Fascinating info! Many thanks Mr. Brown. And thanks for bringing this venerable bike to C&V, Norskagent.

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    Here is my friend's reply:

    "The tires are 28". I forgot to write down the brand name. It
    has a Morrow coaster brake. Hubs are too greasy to see anything. Guess
    I need to tear it down and look for clues.

    I've seen pics of several Iver Johnsons from that time period. The guy
    I talked to about it before said Iver Johnson made a lot of truss frame
    bikes like that and other companys would put their logo on it. The Iver
    Johnsons I've seen have a differnet chain ring pattern. Mine is the
    only truss frame I've seen with the circle pattern."

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