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    Raleigh Record Sprint. Anybody with experience of??

    Just got a 1985ish example,
    and after looking for an affordable basic light-weight Raleigh for ages,
    this is it, as found, but with cobwebs removed and spiders evicted:



    Clean and tidy, but hardly lightweight it seems to me.
    Reynolds 501 is entry level stuff, isn't it?


    Not too disappointed, but my Viscounts are a lot lighter.
    This has a Huret front mech, and Shimano mystery rear:



    The angle of the cable leaving the braze on looks terrible to me!!
    Needs a shorter outer there by the look of it.

    The usual Weinmann brakes and levers, but with a gaudy gold coloured finish.
    The Sugino chain-wheel also:



    Still, I got it for around twice the price of the new Schwalbe Marathons, so it looks OK for the money.
    So, who knows anything about RRS?
    RRA is next...

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    the rear mech is a Shimano 600 Golden Aero.

    no more mystery
    When in doubt, style it out.

    How to post full size pictures

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    Thanks! That's why I was asking the questions.
    I know I'll always get an answer here!
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    Ok
    Last edited by viscount; 11-10-07 at 05:05 AM. Reason: Mistake. Indicated 'stopped' after previous, so I repeated it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowjeep View Post
    the rear mech is a Shimano 600 Golden Aero.

    no more mystery
    That's 105 Golden Arrow. Should be model RD-A105 on the back. I've always liked that group but I've yet to find something to put mine on.

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    Dead right.
    Didn't think of looking on the back!
    Says RD-A105 on the back, preceded by J1.
    Thanks

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    I've got both front and rear on my Raleigh Gran Sport - it's a nice group. I've also wanted an RRS since I was 12. I've missed a couple of examples on eBay, but eventually I'll get one. I know it's relatively heavy, and not special (which is why when I was 12, I got a Coventry Eagle Kermesse instead), but it looks sooo cool with all that black and gold.

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    Yeah! I sounded a bit off-hand about it when I wrote the text, but it's quite a nice machine in it's way.
    Bit gaudy for me to be honest, but it is clean and tidy for the money (56 on ebay, plus 10 for delivery).
    Going out on it today anyway, while the sun still shines.
    Bit of a wind but...

    A good pal of mine rode one when he was a teen and still lusts after one, so I might make a Christmas pressie of it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viscount View Post

    A good pal of mine rode one when he was a teen and still lusts after one, so I might make a Christmas pressie of it yet.
    Looks like my size

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    Actually, looks like a nice bike to me. Not gaudy or garrish looking at all, but thats just my opinion.

    If it fits you, I would'nt get rid of it. As far as it being entry level I think not. Reynolds 501 is
    entry level of the good stuff the way I understand it.
    ~ "I like the way the brake cables come out of the top of the levers and loop around to the brake calipers!...I like those downtube shifters too!...No no no, don't take 'em off, don't take 'em off,...leave 'em on, leave 'em on! - Thats right baby!!

    ~BF - Steel Club Member #00051

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wino Ryder View Post
    Reynolds 501 is
    entry level of the good stuff the way I understand it.
    Exactly, but addicts always want more/better etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyboy View Post
    I've also wanted an RRS since I was 12. I've missed a couple of examples on eBay, but eventually I'll get one.
    I've watched a couple of these on ebay recently and both went way beyond my limits
    (106, one of them) but I just put in a speculative bid on this one,
    and soon realised there were no other real competitors,
    so I increased my original bid by a few pounds close to the end and watched it fall into my lap,
    so to say.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=330181656286

    Ebay is a strange place sometimes.

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    If only U.S.-market Records looked like THAT...

    -Kurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
    If only U.S.-market Records looked like THAT...

    -Kurt
    Hi Kurt,
    Not sure what you mean here.

    I've never totally understood the differences overall.
    OK, with the Roadsters minus chain-cases, it makes some sort of sense.
    I actually prefer the lighter look of the US spec Superbes, etc.
    But how do the Records differ?

    I've never been able to afford a top spec Raleigh lightweight, even second-hand, and I'm not over impressed with this one now I've had my hands on it, and ridden it.
    It doesn't feel as good as my Viscounts for example.
    But maybe that's not a fair comparison.
    It is in good condition for 20 years or so old, but that's not got anything to do with the way it rides.

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    U.S. Market Raleigh Records were all 20-30 tube, untill the early 80's when they became Taiwan crap.
    http://bicyclenut.bravehost.com/Bicy...nt%20page.html

    The last two bikes on my list are a 50's Lenton Grand Prix and a '64 Raleigh Record.

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    Interesting.
    They (Raleigh) were definitely going downhill around 1980 because I have a Superbe from that time and the mudguards/fenders, chain-case and chrome were definitely poor in comparison with earlier models.
    Perforated mudguards around the spotwelding and thin paint.
    Never buy another late one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viscount View Post
    Interesting.
    They (Raleigh) were definitely going downhill around 1980 because I have a Superbe from that time and the mudguards/fenders, chain-case and chrome were definitely poor in comparison with earlier models.
    Perforated mudguards around the spotwelding and thin paint.
    Never buy another late one.
    I'm curious about how old your Superbe is, because I've got this Gran Prix (formerly the TT Bike for the Homeless, only I decided that TT bars sucked big time and went back to the stock road bars and absolutely love the bike) that's post 1980, from what I could make out from the serial number I'm guessing 1982, and the quality is still what I remember from ten years earlier. I absolutely adore the silver/blue paintjob, and the build quality is still what I remembered from when I worked at AR Adams.

    At the moment it's a 12-speed with sewups, and is probably going to go full tricked out fixie for the spring - as much blue trim as I can do to offset the silver main color.
    Syke

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    Quote Originally Posted by sykerocker View Post
    I'm curious about how old your Superbe is....
    It's a 1980 I think, and the paint quality on the mudguards/fenders is definitely poorer than the earlier models.
    I took off the fenders and replaced them with modernish black plastics and I reckon it looks much better.

    Couple of pictures here:

    Superbe: Anybody hear of a 3 speed? Non dyno that is.

    Paintwork on the frame is fine, it's just the bolt ons that are poor, so I reckon Raleigh was buying them in at that point and let standards slip.

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    Here is an example of a lightweight I would love in my own size:




    A classy machine in my opinion, but nowhere near my size.







    Came a across it by chance, but now passed on to an appreciative lady in Scotland.

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    Just got the RRS reasonably roadworthy,
    and here's a pic:



    Setting it up as a light tourer/town bike, I've put on these (unobtrusive?) black plastic guards, rack and rat traps.
    Guards/fenders keep the rain off in dirty weather,
    and I can bring my groceries home on the rack.

    In other words I'll use it!
    Went out for a 6 mile ride yesterday and it flies along nicely!


    Excellent taut, agile, machine.
    Got 'city'/commuter tyres, not smoothies, but great on the streets/pathways.

    Only thing I will do is change the saddle for a leather

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    Ah, the Raleigh Record Sprint. In 1985, not a cheap bike. I think it was about 182. I have the 1985 Raleigh Catalogue from that year scanned in alreay and will upload the relevent pages but for now, here is the '84 catalogue:




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    I had a Raleigh Record Ace frame donated to me once as you say not light with the 501 tubing but very comfortable I rode it for a couple of years until the chainstays cracked just behind the bottom bracket.
    Don't stop pedalling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis72 View Post
    Ah, the Raleigh Record Sprint. In 1985, not a cheap bike. I think it was about 182. I have the 1985 Raleigh Catalogue from that year scanned in alreay and will upload the relevent pages but for now, here is the '84 catalogue:
    Thanks for that!
    Very interesting.
    I've been looking for UK catalogues on the net, but no luck.

    Spec for 84 seems to be the same except for the chain-set.
    And they are right about clearance only for narrow guards.
    I had no idea about prices, but 180 then was certainly not cheap!

    I've been out on it a couple of times now and getting to like it.
    The steering is a little bit twitchy to me, being used to more relaxed angles.

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    Considering my all 531 Coventry Eagle was 250, it was about par for the market at 180. The one with the gold anno chainrings is what I'd like more than anything. On the subject of Nigel Dean, here is my Dean fixie. Don't worry, I got it as a frame and fork only, and no, I haven't cut anything off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammyboy View Post
    Considering my all 531 Coventry Eagle was 250, it was about par for the market at 180. The one with the gold anno chainrings is what I'd like more than anything. On the subject of Nigel Dean, here is my Dean fixie. Don't worry, I got it as a frame and fork only, and no, I haven't cut anything off.
    Nice machine!
    Nigel Dean are little known and much under-appreciated in my opinion.
    The blue one above was given to me before I knew anything about them.
    Know better now though.

    But still can't afford one in my size.
    But if I get a good price for the RRS, who knows!

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