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    Raleigh question.

    Big time Newb here with no idea what I just bought. I've been up all night trying to find out some info on this bike, but have come up with only a few basics. I know it's a Raleigh (the badge on the front), but nothing seems to match up on it. I am under the impression that this bike has been painted and customized some time ago because the wheels, bars, seat and paint just don't seem to match up from everything I've read.
    I have found one number on the bottom bracket, it's kind of hard to read, but I'm pretty sure it says RA58822. The wheels are Mavic Model E, and the gear thing says Campagnolo. The bars say Sakae Road Champion if it helps.

    I'll post a few pics later.

    Thanks.

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    According to the attached chart, the serial # indicates that it's a made in Canada in January of 1975 or 1985. If you want to have guesses as to the model, you need to show us pics or describe distinct features (lugs, fork crown, chrome bits, dropouts).

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    Wow, thanks for the info! I'm gonna try to post a few pics for ya. You'll have to excuse the condition of the bike. I picked it up yesterday at some thrift store and it looks like it's been setting in storage for a long time. Sorry about the cat in the pic as well, he's loves it when I bring home old stuff to smell.
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    Okay, I'll do my best to post what you requested. Just let me know if you need more.

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    No decals and the paint looks like a bad custom job.
    http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s.../Raleigh11.jpg

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    Hub for ya.

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    The bars.

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    Pedals and main gear. BTW, I'd love to know where in the hell I can get the baskets for these peddles, cuz the thing is hard as hell to ride with out them.

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    One last pic. This is the only part of the bike that gives me a clue as to what it is. Someone had put a pump holder clip here but all of the old Raliegh's I've see had the pump on the vertical bar not the slanted one. The only thing I can this is that this had a bottle holder at one time.
    Sorry for spamming the pics, but the more info the better.

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    And you paid how much for this bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    And you paid how much for this bike?
    HA,, trust me, I felt the buyers remorse last night when I was going over this thing. I now call it Frankenbike cuz nothing on it matches up. Actually I got a pretty good deal seeing as I was just looking for a road bike in the first place. Me and my buddy picked up this bike and a Motobecane Super Mirage for a grand total of $50. They wanted $70 for the Raleigh, but I worked on the thrift shop guy over the phone and got him down to $50. When I went to pick up the bike the guy who I had spoken with was out on a long lunch break and left some girl running the store who I worked on a little more and ended up landing the bike for $30.

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    I'd guess the braze-on downtube shift levers, cable stops, water bottle baze-ons and headtube lugs place it in the 80s. The headbadge, if original, shows it was made in England, so that makes it early 80s. The stamped rear dropout places it as fairly lower end or at least lower than the Super Course, which had forged SunTour dropouts then.

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    So maybe it's a Grand Prix? Is it a good enough bike that I should think about restoring, or just ride the hell out of it as is?
    BTW: How the heck do I put air in these tires? They don't seem to fit a normal bike pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchey View Post
    HA,, trust me, I felt the buyers remorse last night when I was going over this thing. I now call it Frankenbike cuz nothing on it matches up. Actually I got a pretty good deal seeing as I was just looking for a road bike in the first place. Me and my buddy picked up this bike and a Motobecane Super Mirage for a grand total of $50. They wanted $70 for the Raleigh, but I worked on the thrift shop guy over the phone and got him down to $50. When I went to pick up the bike the guy who I had spoken with was out on a long lunch break and left some girl running the store who I worked on a little more and ended up landing the bike for $30.

    Wanna double your money?


    You've got a good start on a Campy bike. Clean it, service it and ride it like you stole it. All you need to do is identify the frame set, which looks to be decent.

    Great find!

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    Are they Presta Valve? If yes, you'll need an adaptor sold at any bike shop for $2.00. If this is your first instance pumping up a Presta valve, be sure to releive the valve by unscrewing the top of the valve (it does not come out). Alternately, take it to the bike shop and let them show you how.
    IF your wondering what happens if you don't open the valve, I have a pump with a blown hose that I'll be happy to send you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchey View Post
    So maybe it's a Grand Prix? Is it a good enough bike that I should think about restoring, or just ride the hell out of it as is?
    Maybe a Grand Prix if the Campy is not original. I don't recall any Grand Prix's with Campy.
    The treatment of the seat stays where they join the seat tube is not common. My 73 Record and 87 Record don't have that thin, round bar that crosses the front of the seat tube. My 74 Grand Prix is identical. Then again, I don't have any high end Raleighs.
    I only have one other bike with a similiar treatment except the stay tube that crosses the seat tube is flat, its on a 83 Woodrup. The Woodrup is hand-made in England.
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    Not a bad bike - those rims and that rear derailleur make the price you paid more than worthwhile.

    As far as the valves go, your pump might be convertable to deal with presta. Depending on what type it is, there may be a little screw cap holding a rubber cylinder in the pump head. If you take that out and reverse it (and reverse the "little plastic thingy" that may or may not be stuck to the back of the rubber cylinder) it'll work for your valves. That's about the best description I can type, but if your pump is that type you'll see what I'm talking about. Then again, if it's one of those cheapie floor pumps you should probably disregard this .

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    Help me. Is that rear derailer on an adapter claw or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
    Help me. Is that rear derailer on an adapter claw or not?
    I'd help if I had any idea what you were talking about.
    Thanks for all the info so far! Let me know if you need more pics, I'd be happy to put em up.

    BTW: What does Campy mean?
    Edit: I just figured out what you mean. You can see what I'm talking about when I referred to it as Frankenbike. Everything seems to be mixed up.

    Can you guy's point me to any guides about the Campy? Like how to adjust it and all that good stuff?
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    Sorry about that,
    Campy = Campagnolo, an Italian component manufacturer usually associated with high $$$$ parts.
    I'm not very familiar with the brand since I focus on Suntour and Shimano with a few SRAM components now and then.
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    The "wrap-around" seatstays are something that my seventies Grand Prix frame (patiently awaiting 3-speedization) also has; ditto on the stamped dropouts. Suntour front derailler, Campy Gran Sport rear, TTT stem, decent rims -- the only thing I see that would have been original to a bike like this is the SR handlebar, and maybe the brakes if they're Weinmann. What are the rims and hubs? Are the spokes stainless or galvanized? For me, nice wheels really make a bike a better ride. It's a very serviceable frame, in good condition, with some nice components added later; so enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Wahl View Post
    The "wrap-around" seatstays are something that my seventies Grand Prix frame (patiently awaiting 3-speedization) also has; ditto on the stamped dropouts. Suntour front derailler, Campy Gran Sport rear, TTT stem, decent rims -- the only thing I see that would have been original to a bike like this is the SR handlebar, and maybe the brakes if they're Weinmann. What are the rims and hubs? Are the spokes stainless or galvanized? For me, nice wheels really make a bike a better ride. It's a very serviceable frame, in good condition, with some nice components added later; so enjoy it!
    Thanks for the info. The rims are 27" Mavic Model E's with the old red and green decal on em. I have no clue how to tell if the spokes are stainless or galvanized and I couldnt tell you what hubs are on it yet, but I'll post some more pics when I get home if that helps. The brakes are Weinmann, but the front pads look like they are new.
    I'd realy like to take the whole thing apart and give it a proper tune up, but I have no clue how and were to start, so any help would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duchey View Post
    I'd help if I had any idea what you were talking about.
    Thanks for all the info so far! Let me know if you need more pics, I'd be happy to put em up.

    BTW: What does Campy mean?
    Edit: I just figured out what you mean. You can see what I'm talking about when I referred to it as Frankenbike. Everything seems to be mixed up.

    Can you guy's point me to any guides about the Campy? Like how to adjust it and all that good stuff?
    http://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_aa-l.html#adaptor

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    Those hubs look like the Normandy hubs that came on my 77 Grand Prix. It definatly looks like someone picked up a basic Grand Prix and then upgraded as things broke along the way. A solid ride and ell worth it for $30.

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