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Old 11-18-07, 06:40 PM   #1
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Help with a new Faggin? (Lots of pix)

I picked this Faggin frameset up the other day and have spent a while researching it. There seems to be a paucity of Faggin information available, but I'm hoping that somebody who hasn't weighed in before will see this thread and help figure out the story behind this frame.

I'm interested in knowing when the bike was made, and any other information available, especially what kind of Columbus tubing was used, although I know that's pretty difficult to ascertain. From what I understand, the gold Columbus sticker points to higher end tubing. The seat tube is 61cm cc, and the top tube is 58cm cc, so maybe it's SP due to the larger size?

Some of the pictures are not the best, so here's a little explanation of what they show. Serial numbers are as follows: to the left of the "F" cutout under the BB is WKK710A, and to the right is 61. Fork ends and dropouts say "Brev. Campagnolo." The Columbus sticker is generic and reads "tubi rinforzati garantiti, acciaio speciale, Columbus." The writing above the Columbus decal appears to be the name and address of a previous owner, Leif Jensen, with an address that looks like it might be Scandinavian. "Faggin" is pantographed into both sides of the sloping fork crown in a cursive font, and the two head lugs and seat cluster have a pantographed "F" in them. "FM" is pantographed on each side of the peak of the brake bridge, and "FAGGIN" on the non-drive side of the BB.

I got the frame from a local guy who bought it at an auction to part out. He said it came built up with Suntour Superbe, which fits with other info I've found that says Faggins were imported as framesets only and shops built them up as they saw fit. I paid $175 for it, with a Tange Levin headset and a Shimano BB, both of which need an overhaul. I think that may have been on the high side since the chrome on the stays and forks has black spots left from rust, and there are a few dime-sized chunks of paint missing on the bottom of the down tube, but overall I'm pretty pleased with it and can't wait to build it up and ride it. It's getting Shimano 10spd drivetrain, Dura Ace and Ultegra mix, and will be my first bike with modern high end components.

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Old 11-18-07, 07:09 PM   #2
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I have one too,. My guess is mid to late 80s for yours. The chrome on mine also sucked ass and has pitting. Fell the inside of the tubes through the BB shell when you have it apart to see if their is any splines in there. IF there is it's SLX or SPX... if not I bet SL or SP, mine is a later model than yours and is SPX, a 63cm. Mine rides nice and has lots of snap. I have outfitted it with super record. I like it but would pass it on in a second for something with a bit more snob appeal and something from the mid-late 70s to early 80s. I feel they are finished quite poorly.
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How does SPX differ from SP? And SLX from SL?

I've seen a Columbus catalog scan before, but can't find the link anymore. If anybody wanted to post it I'd be grateful.
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I dunno: it has the 2 "portacatena" holes in the Campy dropout, so I'd guess early '80s, and either SL, SP or perhaps an SL/SP blended set (seat post size will help ID at least the seat tube). It's too early for SLX but I think it will clean up and polish up to look pretty nice, and will probably ride just like an Italian bike should...you could have done much worse for $175

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I dunno: it has the 2 "portacatena" holes in the Campy dropout, so I'd guess early '80s, and either SL, SP or perhaps an SL/SP blended set (seat post size will help ID at least the seat tube). It's too early for SLX but I think it will clean up and polish up to look pretty nice, and will probably ride just like an Italian bike should...you could have done much worse for $175

Good point. I'm not on my game... My '92 bike with SP takes a 27.2, my late 80s bike with SPX takes a 27.2 too so i think it should be a 27.2 seatpost regardless. The only SP bike I have that takes a 27.0 is my track bike, but it also has an ovalised tube set (1981).
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nice looking faggin, i had one about that size with the same graphics. i sold it as a FG conversion and the kid wrecked it and crumpled the top and downtubes. i wish i would've put some road gear on it and kept it.
i think it was SL and took a 27.2 post.
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Good point. I'm not on my game... My '92 bike with SP takes a 27.2, my late 80s bike with SPX takes a 27.2 too so i think it should be a 27.2 seatpost regardless. The only SP bike I have that takes a 27.0 is my track bike, but it also has an ovalised tube set (1981).
They could always ream out the SP seat tube to use a 27.2 seat post, but normally an SP tube will have a 1mm wall thickness versus the .9mm wall of an SL seat tube, so if they leave the same material in place it would be 27.0. I'm sure many builders liked the standardization of only one size post to stock.
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Nice frame. I looked at one a few weeks back but the chrome was what made me not buy it. I should of bought either as I would of made my money back and then sum, if it would of fetched what yours did. Excuse me while I commence a search for a Faggin.
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