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Old 11-29-07, 08:49 AM   #1
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Yet another Paramount question...

What would be the period correct wheel/hub/tire combination for my '72 P15-9 ?


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My 72 P-15 has Weinmann clincher alloy rims & campy nuevo record high flange hubs. I like very much. The only issue that I have is that the Weinmann rims are staight-walled so I don't run the tire pressure above 80psi. I would like to find a set of period correct 27" rims that I could run at 90psi-100psi.
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Old 11-29-07, 09:03 AM   #3
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The Weinmann convex alloy rims with Record high flage hubs (neither "nuevo" nor Nuovo, for what it's worth) would have been original to the bike. I'd bet the tires would have been Schwinn branded, but someone else here will know for sure. I have original tires on my '73 P-15 wheelset at home and can check tonight, if no one else can answer the question. For riding, you probably don't want period tires anyway, though they're nice to have for show. Something like Panaracer Paselas with tan sidewalls - make sure you get tires with wires in them, or they'll blow off the non-beaded rims. I believe there was an early beaded rim thread on here not long ago - not really many options circa '72 that will let you run higher pressure. Slightly later Mavic Module E's would work at higher pressures and look pretty good, too.
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Tires, rims, and brake shoes are the biggest challenge for those of us who want to ride our classic bikes while keeping them as original as possible.
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Original tires would have been Schwinn-approved "LeTour" clinchers size 27x1 1/4.
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My problem is.....I bought that 26" campus green p-15 off ebay back in the spring....it is all original except , I believe, for the wheels.....It has Araya deep rim tubular rims on the campy high flange hubs...the rims look period correct.....later on , I bought a set of super gentleman champion clincher wheels, which I believe are from the early 80's.....

Those Gentleman rims....were they pretty common from the 60's thru 80's on Paramounts?
Here is a link to some pics of the bike....I can't actually see the pics here at work on this monitor, so hopefully there are some pics of the wheels...
Some pics of my '72 Paramount
1st post link to photobucket pics
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The Gentleman rims would post-date the bike, but not by a whole bunch. They were fairly common on touring bikes in the 70's - not original equipment on a P-15, but not likely to raise any eyebrows, IMO. They would be the kind of thing a Paramount owner would be likely to update on his/her bike during that period, as better clincher's became available. The decals on the Gentleman rims did change, I think, but I personally wouldn't get too wrapped up in that if the rims look good. The Super Champion 58's pre-date the Gentleman model (I think), and were available when your bike was made.

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"The Weinmann convex alloy rims with Record high flage hubs (neither "nuevo" nor Nuovo, for what it's worth) would have been original to the bike" ... I'll keep my eyes open for a set of these for future reference...

Ok then!....Methinks I'll just lace up the Gentlemans with the high flange Campy hubs and we're all set!

Thanks for all the comments/advice, etc...
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I've got Superchampion Gentleman (700c) on my '73 Paramount. They're not original, but the rims are from that same vintage. I like them a lot. I run 700c x 22 clinchers at 110 psi on those wheels. They work nearly as good as my sewups.

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"The Weinmann convex alloy rims with Record high flage hubs (neither "nuevo" nor Nuovo, for what it's worth) would have been original to the bike" ... I'll keep my eyes open for a set of these for future reference...

Ok then!....Methinks I'll just lace up the Gentlemans with the high flange Campy hubs and we're all set!

Thanks for all the comments/advice, etc...
Heck, find some old "Schwinn Approved" stickers, or have some printed up, slap 'em on there, and you're as authentic as Schwinn ever tried to be themselves. Heck, Schwinn made about 8 billion Paramounts during the bike boom, and the anomalies are Legion (semi-Biblical reference for Paster Bob).
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Heck, find some old "Schwinn Approved" stickers, or have some printed up, slap 'em on there, and you're as authentic as Schwinn ever tried to be themselves. Heck, Schwinn made about 8 billion Paramounts during the bike boom, and the anomalies are Legion (semi-Biblical reference for Paster Bob).

Kinda like GM during the late 60's. 427 & 4 speed in that Biscayne?? No problem!
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I am using a set of Super Champion clincher rims on my P-15. They presently are laced to Phil Wood hubs, but I will eventually rebuild them with Campy hubs. On my chrome P-13, I am running later Weinmann clincher rims that have hook beads. I have the original Weinmann wheels for both, clinchers for the P-15 and tubulars for the P-13, but I prefer using more modern clinchers.
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Well then, while we're on the subject.....

Do any of you Paramountites have a '72 Paramount detailed spec sheet that could be e-mailed to me?
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Bob Hufford has the 1971 Paramount spec sheet HERE, the 1973 Paramount spec sheet HERE (sorry, no '72, but the specs of the '71 and '73 are so similar it's safe to make lots of assumptions about the '72), the 1972 Paramount Dealer Specifications HERE, and the 1972 Paramount Order Form HERE.

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Ahhh....thank you , Stan!
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Ahhh....thank you , Stan!
Yeah, only problem with that info, as awesome as it is to have available, is that it doesn't always specify the brand and model for the parts. It may list a Schwinn parts number, but doesn't always divulge the make and model - probably in part because Schwinn had to remain somewhat flexible as to which "Schwinn approved" bits were obtainable and being provided at a given time.
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