Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

An accessory question for our U.K. based members.

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

An accessory question for our U.K. based members.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-09-07, 09:35 PM
  #1  
Super Course fan
Thread Starter
 
redneckwes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
Posts: 2,720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
An accessory question for our U.K. based members.

Ok, this might be better answered by the older U.K. based forum members.
Or anyone else who might know.

Here is the hypothetical, it's 1981 or within a couple of years of it, and you walk into a bike shop looking for a rear rack. What would the most common rack be? The standard Pletscher mouse trap? Or were racks not common on British bikes in the early 80's ?
__________________
I have a white PX-10, a Green Dawes Galaxy and an Orange Falcon, now I'm done.

Last edited by redneckwes; 12-09-07 at 10:01 PM.
redneckwes is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:50 AM
  #2  
Super Course fan
Thread Starter
 
redneckwes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
Posts: 2,720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Anyone? Anyone at all?

Well, there are Pletscher mouse traps listed in the '78 and '81 catalogs, so I guess that is what I'll go with.
__________________
I have a white PX-10, a Green Dawes Galaxy and an Orange Falcon, now I'm done.
redneckwes is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:53 AM
  #3  
Lanky Lass
 
East Hill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
Posts: 21,434

Bikes: Nishiki Nut! International, Pro, Olympic 12, Sport mixte, and others too numerous to mention.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Ask viscount or pitcanary...

East Hill
__________________
___________________________________________________
TRY EMPATHY & HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART, PERHAPS I'LL SEE YOU ON THE ROAD...
East Hill is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 09:56 AM
  #4  
Super Course fan
Thread Starter
 
redneckwes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
Posts: 2,720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by East Hill
Ask viscount or pitcanary...

East Hill
Thanks East Hill, I was thinking one of them might respond, but I know it's kind of an odd question, one that I probably answered for myself. If the catalog had Pletscher racks, thats probably my answer.
__________________
I have a white PX-10, a Green Dawes Galaxy and an Orange Falcon, now I'm done.
redneckwes is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:01 AM
  #5  
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 21,796

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1392 Post(s)
Liked 1,324 Times in 836 Posts
I would think the classic Swiss Pletscher mousetrap would have been as popular in Europe as it was here. (... or should I say "is," since I still happily use one on my Peugeot? )
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:02 AM
  #6  
Viscount
 
viscount's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Gloucester, England.
Posts: 1,016

Bikes: Mercian, Viscount x2, Holdworth La Quelda, Gundle Trade Bike, Williams/Mercian Tourer, Itera,

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Viscount isn't sure about it!
But I got numerous racks here and will look into it and report back.

Pletscher is good quality over a long period, light, and no paint to match!
So what's the problem with Pletscher?
viscount is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:05 AM
  #7  
Viscount
 
viscount's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Gloucester, England.
Posts: 1,016

Bikes: Mercian, Viscount x2, Holdworth La Quelda, Gundle Trade Bike, Williams/Mercian Tourer, Itera,

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
PS. I think we might have been asleep here when you asked
viscount is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 10:58 AM
  #8  
Stop reading my posts!
 
unworthy1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,580
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1443 Post(s)
Liked 1,060 Times in 785 Posts
What's the problem with Pletscher? Well since they were common and cheap they were often abused (at least used hard) and so they cracked. They also quickly lost that very thin flash plating and turned gray and then ashy white...and the steel parts rusty red. Other than that, most of the Pletscher stuff (racks and kickstands) are examples of a quality industrial design, akin to the other Swiss landmark Weinmann centerpull brake calipers, and most people just give it away. I have so many freebies I only keep the really good ones. When I want a rack to actually carry a load, I use a Blackburn.
unworthy1 is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 11:27 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,768

Bikes: Cinelli, Paramount, Raleigh, Carlton, Zeus, Gemniani, Frejus, Legnano, Pinarello, Falcon

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
As I recall, by the 80s the Blackburns had pretty much replaced the Pletshers, but that was here in the US.
dbakl is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 12:02 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 541

Bikes: Nothing special, but it works.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm a Pletscher fan. For my commuter bikes, I prefer them to the higher-end products. The spring clip is actually useful (great for carrying a u-lock), they're cheap, and they work.
Saintly Loser is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 02:17 PM
  #11  
Re member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sheffield England
Posts: 101

Bikes: AM Moulton. Brompton S-type.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Hold the front page, I wasn't actually at my computer. Went to the flicks. Anyway.. For what bike? I'd agree with dbakl on the Blackburn. My Granddad had a front and rear Blackburn rack about that era on his Claud Butler.
pitcanary is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 02:22 PM
  #12  
Super Course fan
Thread Starter
 
redneckwes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
Posts: 2,720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
pitcanary,

Nothing exotic, just a Raleigh Grand Prix.
__________________
I have a white PX-10, a Green Dawes Galaxy and an Orange Falcon, now I'm done.
redneckwes is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 02:42 PM
  #13  
Re member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sheffield England
Posts: 101

Bikes: AM Moulton. Brompton S-type.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'd say Pletscher would still have been the most popular.
pitcanary is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 05:16 PM
  #14  
Super Course fan
Thread Starter
 
redneckwes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost on the windswept plains of the Great Black Swamp
Posts: 2,720
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Pletscher it is then, those I have, and will soon have more of.

I have a set of Marples cabintmaker chisels made in Sheffield.
__________________
I have a white PX-10, a Green Dawes Galaxy and an Orange Falcon, now I'm done.
redneckwes is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 05:29 PM
  #15  
Viscount
 
viscount's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Gloucester, England.
Posts: 1,016

Bikes: Mercian, Viscount x2, Holdworth La Quelda, Gundle Trade Bike, Williams/Mercian Tourer, Itera,

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I've had several Pletschers, racks and stands, and never had the hint of rust.
I assumed they were alloy. The stands certainly were.
Only problem with the twin legged stands was that if you tightened the mountings too much they could squash the tubes on a lightweight.
Not good.
viscount is offline  
Old 12-10-07, 05:43 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
sykerocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Ashland, VA
Posts: 4,420

Bikes: The keepers: 1958 Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix, 1968 Ranger, 1969 Magneet Sprint, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1973 Raleigh Tourist, 3 - 1986 Rossins, and a '77 PX-10 frame in process.

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 221 Post(s)
Liked 237 Times in 129 Posts
You don't have to tighten them too much. Just put a piece of drilled strap between the mount and the rear brake's center bolt. That keeps them from sliding down and you don't have to overly tighten them.
__________________
Syke

“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

H.L. Mencken, (1926)

sykerocker is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.